Date:   11/28/2004 2:50:13 AM ( 21 y ago)
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You are not fair to what someone else said for the reason that
you do not accurately repeat what they said. You twist it into what appears to be your message. You think DNA is potentially human. You use human and human being interchangeably. I do not. A thing can be human without being the whole human being.

I said a strand of DNA is not a human being. There is nothing irrational about that. Do not throw my words around, and out of the context I used them in the same way you throw around the word human.

I agreeded that a strand of DNA from the egg and another from the sperm combine to form a strand of DNA in the zygote or later embryo. These strands are human like, but I do not consider such strands as human beings. These strands of DNA are PART of what it means to be a human being. They have the potential to become a whole human being. You seem to consider them human beings, persons, I consider that irrational.

When someone takes a scraping from inside the cheek to get some cells and analyze the DNA, those cells are not a human being even though they are human (as you call it) because they came from a human. A strand of DNA in the cells lining the cheek is like a strand of DNA in the zygote, neither one is a human being or a person. Both strands are human like, resembling human(s). According you its murder to throw away those cheek cells like many people do once in a while when there is too many of them there. (They peel away easily.)

You or any of the others against abortion have not answered my question on how part of a whole equalls the whole. Does a leg which is human,equal the whole body? To you apparently it does.
If you saw a leg separated from the body you could identify it as human, meaning it belongs to a human(being). It does not belong to another species. But you could not say the separated leg is a human being, for one thing it lacks a brain (and torso). An acorn has the potential of being a tree but it is not a tree--no shade for one thing. You want to make an acorn a tree as a logical outcome of your type of reasoning.

You also ignored what I tried to describe as the context in which scientific definitions, like that of DNA, are made and used. Why?

You are the one trying to convince everyone that those who favor abortion do not see the difference between something 4 weeks old and something 9 months old. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CAN'T SEE THAT DIFFERENCE. Reread my post.

You make fun of continuum. How do you define 9 months of pregnancy?

I never said a zygote was equal to a fetus or baby one day before its birth. You do. You call the begining product of the zygote a person and the end product of 9 months development a person. Strange to have the same thing at the end of a process (of development) as at the beginning.

How many Science classes pertaining to this do you actually have?
 

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