Date:   6/11/2002 5:40:34 PM ( 22 y ago)
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I am obviously interested in this discussion but I did originally ask about the bad reaction to the ground cloves. I have also had the same problem with a very strong anti'bacterial mixture from a very skilled German herbalist based in Portugal. His gentler mixture based on Black-Walnut was fine but the stronger one including Grapefruit Seed brought me down even quicker and more severely than the cloves. I am trying to work out what this means for my system and whatever underlies my digestive difficulties.

I use the freeze dried probiotics and the effect is interesting. They help transiently but the effect has normally gone within about two days. Its back to the mashed potato, I am afraid. I did take one tablet anally and the effect was much quicker and very strong, but again it didnt last. What are these live strains you talk about Richard ? How are they kept alive.

I am now taking in some clove intake through Padma tablets and a tea that includes cloves so I hope that will be sufficient.

Just to finish, I would stress that, amongst the various things I have tried, two treatments stand out as having got me back from seriously ill to functioning again, working, swimming, some kind of love life and so on:

1. Black-Walnut
2. A course of Floradix

However I have no sense of a cure in the sense of my body returning to a self-sustaining entity within commonsense parameters. Secondly I remain unsure as to what is even wrong with me in any precise way. All I know is I have been seriously ill twice in a year and I am normally a strong, fit person.

Candida, parasites, flukes, the residue of past infections, mechanical blockages in the liver and the gall....this is the general paradigm pursued here and seems to me broadly on the right lines. But pinning it down is perilously difficult.

Joe


 

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