Date:   5/4/2002 12:23:09 PM ( 22 y ago)
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> I have read several post here about people passing LARGE stones. When I say large, I mean 20-30mm. Here is my problem. I have done the flush myself and have passed stones so I know you get something from the flush. The ducts of the gull and liver are not very big, maybe in the range of 10-15 mm max. The liver ducts are even smaller. People have claimed that they have had stones the size of golf balls. It is impossible to pass stones this size through the ducts of the gull and liver.
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Have you ever seen the size of vagina? Head of baby is 30 times bigger.
Imagine baby head inside. Impossible?



Have you ever seen anus?
Looks like that anything bigger then 1 mm will never pass through it.

Imagine feces - 4 cm in diameter.
Can it pass through anus?
I have seen even a bigger shit.



Human tissue can streatch. Try your skin. Pull it to see how much it can streatch.

Human intestines and stomach can streatch extremely, alowing a lot of foods to stay inside ...





> This leads me to suspect that these stones may be formed in the small intestine. People claim that this is not the case as the bile green color means they came for the gull or liver.
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Stones are comosed of cholesterol.
Human intestines can not produce cholesterol. Read FAQ.



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> Many doctors suspect that the stone generated in this way are soap stones created in the intestines by the large amounts of fat in the oils. This may be the case, at least for the large ones, as a golf ball could never pass through the gull and liver ducts at this size.
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Olive oil soap is in liquid state, never hard, unless it is dried.


Soap produced from liquid fats is always liquid!!!!



To produce soap, you need KOH or NaOH and high temperature, and still, soap will be liquid.



Many doctors lack basic knowledge of soap chemistry.


This question have been answered in FAQ.





> So, are these stones really just formed by some combination of factors in the intestines?
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Nobody have ever found any indication that human intestines can produce cholesterol or calcium stones ...
It is hard to believe





> If we really look into the length of the liver and gull passages, even 1000 small stones that are on average 8 mm in diameter be 8000 mm. This is roughly 26 feet that the stones would occupy in these passages.
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When people pass 1000 stones, it is mainly small, sand like size.

It is known that some gallbladders can hold over 3000 stones - sand size. That fact is proved by surgery. Make a search on
+"3000 stones" + gallstones


Usually, only 20 - 70 stones are as large as 8 mm, and only few 10 - 20 are over 1 cm, if any.




> But, this then leads me to wonder if it is normal for the liver to create these stones on a regular basis.




Only "sick" liver produces stones.


Extremely healthy young people have no stones. You can recognize "extremely healthy young person" by
1.age
2.general beauty
3. beautiful skin - healthy skin.

Few examples that will help you recognize "extremely-healthy-young person" around you: Sharon Stone, Brad Pitt, Sophie Marceau, Elvis Presley, Marilyn Monroe, Demi Moore, James Dean, ... but only when they were younger then 20 - 25 ... as ... when they get older, they loose health & beauty & ....their liver starts making stones ... which can be recognized on their face ... suppose they are without makeup ....


I was just using known names as an example, but if you look around, you will see "extremely healthy young people" in every school - drop-dead gorgeous kids (14 - 18 years old) who are also very healthy, and can eat and drink almost any kind of foods ... and can tolerate it well ... can tolerate a lot of alcohol ... drugs ...

That is a sign of healthy liver ...




But, if you see kids with acne, eczema, poor skin, glasses ... that is a sign of unhealthy ... congested ... blocked liver ...




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> How many of you have actually disected your normal stools to see if there are stones present? I have not and it is not crazy to say that you may just pass a certain number of stones with each normal bowel movement.
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Many people did it.

Stones are extremely rare in the stool - most likely, it will apear after long fasting followed by high fat meal...




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> You just never see them because they are hidden in the rest of the fecal material. So maybe we excrete these stones on a daily basis, and the Liver Flush just procedure produces a larger volume of stones and makes them very easy to see as the rest of the Liver Flush bowel is mostly liquid.
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I don't. I get them out only by flush.




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> So, has anyone ever considered that the production of these stones in the liver is normal and that it is also normal to get some in the gullbladder and that they are excreated in smaller numbers in our normal bowel movements?
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It is normal for people, whos liver have been damaged by vaccination, Antibiotics , pesticides, toxins, medications, fasting, overeating, junk food, poor lifestyle, excessive anger, excessive sadness, excessive bitterness ....




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> I'm going to disect my normal stools to verify if any of these stones are hidden in them. We must also consider that these stones may be "digested" when the bowels contain other normal food materials, bacteria, and enzymes that the "oil and juice" stools do not contain. It is very likely that this may occur. In this case the disection of even normal stools would show no stones.


That could be possible.

But, it is also possible that you need more oxigen to digest cholesterol.


If you leave stones on room temperature, they get converted into bile acids (vaxy liquid), most likely as a result of bacterial action + air.



Question is if it ever happens inside intestines.

I have had stones 1 day after cleanse, embeded inside feces, whole, no sign of it being digested.



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> So are these flushes really necessary in the first place?



Ask those who's health have been significantly improved.

Most health problems can be traced back to liver blockage and poor digestion - absorbtion.


Allergies, poor diegestion, high cholesterol, asthma, Gallstones attacks, cancer, AIDS, UC, IBD, IBS, GERD, heart problems, .....


I am just one who's health have been significantly improved. Flush is good for me.

It cured my digestive troubles (allergies, IBS,IBD).

I was underweight, now I am average weight, and I can tolerate wider spectra of foods.


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