Re: Holy hip hop! by John Cullison ..... Christianity Debate
Date: 8/8/2006 7:38:57 PM ( 18 y ago)
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Are you not tracking with your own posts, What For?
When I asked if another poster was ready to declare his own perfection, you butted in with:
YES! Perfection is already a done deal. Christ has alredy made perfect every believer through sanctification.
Those were your words. Perfection (and thus fitness for entry into Heaven, where only perfection may reside) is already a done deal, you said. Christ had already made perfect every believer through sanctification, you said.
You even included the following verse:
Heb 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are sanctified.
In response to subsequent commentary from me on your alleged state of perfection, you then said:
I believe I "proclaimed" God perfected the believe(sic) and showed you the verses where He says He had.
So are you proclaiming that you are perfect or aren't you? First you said yes, but now you seem to be backing away from that original stance.
Either you believe Heb 10:14 [and all the other verses you quoted] which claim that the sanctified (I assume that includes you) are now perfect, or you don't. So... you're already on record making the claim that you are perfect. Is that your final answer or isn't it?
If you aren't willing to proclaim your own perfection, then either a) accepting Jesus is, in fact, spiritual cronyism, or b) you really haven't accepted Jesus.
Which is it?
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