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Re: The Reality of Hell by AvgJoe ..... Christianity Debate

Date:   1/29/2005 1:08:05 PM ( 19 y ago)
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1TIM 4:10 For therefor we labor and suffer reproach,because we trust the living God, WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL men, especially those that believe.KJV

This verse does not imply that all men will receive everlasting life, otherwise, the ending statement, "...especially those that believe," is a pointless statement. God is indeed the saviour of all men. God made the world and everything that is in it. He gives life and breath to all things. God is kind to the unthankful and to the evil just as He is to believers, for He makes the sun rise on the evil and on the good and sends the rain on the just and the unjust. In God, all men (and animals and plants for that matter) live, and move, and have their being(exist). God's providence saves all men's mortal existence, for without it, this world and everything in it would wither away. (Ps. 36:6; 145:9; Matt. 5:45; Luke 6:35; Acts 17:25, 28.) So, yes, God is the saviour of all men.

The living God is the providential preserver of all men; but He is especially so for believers, for He not only physically and temporally delivers them, but He also spiritually and eternally saves them.


1Tim 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;WHO WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.KJV

God wants (desires) all men without exception by their own free will to be saved. However, in the case of some, His will can be and is effectually resisted through obstinate unbelief, because man has a free will and God will not force His will upon man.


John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, Will draw ALL men unto me.

He will draw all men but not all men will accept His calling.


John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I JUDGE HIM NOT, for I came not to judge the world but SAVE THE WORLD! KJV

You're not going to read verse 48 too?

John 12:48(KJV)
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

A few more verses to ponder;

Acts 17:31(KJV)
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

2 Corinthians 5:10(KJV)
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Hebrews 9:27(KJV)
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Matthew 12:36(KJV)
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

John 3:17-18(KJV)
17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

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1TIM 4:10 For therefor we labor and suffer reproach,because we trust the living God, WHO IS THE SAVIOR OF ALL men, especially those that believe.KJV

This verse does not imply that all men will receive everlasting life, otherwise, the ending statement, "...especially those that believe," is a pointless statement. God is indeed the saviour of all men. God made the world and everything that is in it. He gives life and breath to all things. God is kind to the unthankful and to the evil just as He is to believers, for He makes the sun rise on the evil and on the good and sends the rain on the just and the unjust. In God, all men (and animals and plants for that matter) live, and move, and have their being(exist). God's providence saves all men's mortal existence, for without it, this world and everything in it would wither away. (Ps. 36:6; 145:9; Matt. 5:45; Luke 6:35; Acts 17:25, 28.) So, yes, God is the saviour of all men.

The living God is the providential preserver of all men; but He is especially so for believers, for He not only physically and temporally delivers them, but He also spiritually and eternally saves them.


1Tim 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior;WHO WILL HAVE ALL MEN TO BE SAVED, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.KJV

God wants (desires) all men without exception by their own free will to be saved. However, in the case of some, His will can be and is effectually resisted through obstinate unbelief, because man has a free will and God will not force His will upon man.


John 12:32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, Will draw ALL men unto me.

He will draw all men but not all men will accept His calling.


John 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I JUDGE HIM NOT, for I came not to judge the world but SAVE THE WORLD! KJV

You're not going to read verse 48 too?

John 12:48(KJV)
He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

A few more verses to ponder;

Acts 17:31(KJV)
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

2 Corinthians 5:10(KJV)
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Hebrews 9:27(KJV)
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Matthew 12:36(KJV)
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

John 3:17-18(KJV)
17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God

 

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