Re:Close by #22058 ..... Christianity Debate
Date: 5/10/2004 11:25:45 PM ( 20 y ago)
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Hold it! I said that Satan's fall from hell is not the concern here. The question is how did an Angel of such massive responsibility would falter and doubt his own postion that his very ambition comes into play. I'm not working on the fact that the denizen's of the dark have fallen from God's grace, but that they all at one time were occupants of heaven. I'm not working the premise of the fallen, I'm working the premise that they all fit in God's plan w/o fail. We all have to put the realization that we are the action of God's plan now. But the why stands as as stark as ever and God has every need that we understand his intent as his desire for our faith. If God is so patient as to give his only begotten son to suffer for our sin's (remember that Jesus was as a pure lamb given in sacrifice), then how is his patience tried when we advance our knowledge of him beyond the boundaries set by our learned authoritites?
The matter stands as this, God asked us to search for him in the wilderness. This I see as unexplored territory. And he becomes disappointed when we remain static. Look to the future for the quiet little clues that are bypassed by those of detrimental, aggressive subjigation. You must coonect that facing God, Moses asked God his name. His answer was " I am that I am." you have to make the connection between this answer and the human identity.
Everything you posted above bears a major portion of fruit. I like the way you fit it together and even the point that there is no biblical proof on one statement. But that is still a fine piece of work. I'll not contest it. But I just feel I failed in putting my point in perspective. The past is said and done. I can only battle one's interpretation on those opinion's. I just want to take the future into the full equation. I mean, what happened to allow God to become everything in the multi-verse? How is it that one entity became the co-agulation of all that exist's in all forms and conclusions. Maybe he's not just one entity. That he is the catharsis, the Omni-pattern of all that is in existance. he is the illumination of all the sentient conciousness in creation.
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