Date:   8/28/2003 4:55:24 PM ( 21 y ago)
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Skeptic, of course, is only a skeptic in the worst sense of the word.

The "good" defition of skeptic (dictionary.com): One who is yet undecided as to what is true; one who is looking or inquiring for what is true; an inquirer after facts or reasons.

Skeptic already knows all the answers in his own mind. He isn't skeptical. He's very much opposed to Dr. Clark, and the last thing he's doing is looking to find out for himself.

Let's take a look at some select quotes:

She uses pseudo-scientific blather and buzz words to lighten people's wallets.

Never mind that she allows anyone to freely copy her materials.

Never mind that most of us here have never paid Dr. Clark one dime for her services or information.

Never mind that the FDA-approved "studies" of the pharmaceutical industry are the real source of pseudo-scientific blather and buzz words used to lighten people's wallets.

naturopathy (the politically correct term for "witch doctor")

This pretty much nails The Skeptic right here. Basically, if you don't choose to use pharmaceutical drugs, surgery, or "solutions" based on the most modern technology (radiation, chemotherapy, etc.), you are living in the dark ages, as far as Skeptic is concerned.

Never mind that many modern drugs were derived from plants. Aspirin, for example. Codeine and morphine, for example. Heck, if you read LSD: My Problem Child by Albert Hoffman, he notes how he discovered LSD just doing his job, searching for medicinally interesting substances found in nature (in this case, he was working on a fungus that infects rye). The pharmaceutical industry has spent a long time yanking substances out of plants. Why not just use the plants? Oh, right, because a naturally-occurring plant can't be patented.

Never mind that so many of us have watched modern medicine's solutions kill friends and family.

bevpirt: Do you have personal proof that she is a charlatan?
Skeptic: With a basic knowledge of human physiology, the kind one should get in high school, one should be able to see that Dr. Clark's premises are bogus. She uses pseudo-scientific blather and buzz words to lighten people's wallets.

After all, everything anyone needs to know has already been discovered. All medicine, all healing, is completely within the realm of our scientific drug'n'surgery knowledge right now. We understand it all. No one should ever explore anything else; Science already has all the answers, now just sit down and take your drugs, you silly fools!

In other words, no, he doesn't have any proof. Skeptic's just a shill for QuackWatch.

I do not need personal experience jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge to know that it is not good for me. Likewise Dr. Clark.

But using poisons to hopefully kill cancer cells faster than the poisons kill non-cancer cells, well, that's good medicine! That cures everyone!

Skeptic doesn't need personal experience because he's smarter than everyone here, even those of us who have personal experience. Anyone that has ever benefited from the work of Dr. Clark was just getting the placebo effect. It's all in our heads!

Of course, it's hard to get someone to see something when his personal income depends on his not seeing it.

She cured asthma? Are YOU certain you had it? Perhaps you were improperly diagnosed.

John said:

What, is Skeptic here denying the ability of a medical doctor to diagnose something as simple as asthma? Rather than accept that someone might have been cured of asthma (after all, the medical approach to asthma is to put you on drugs for the rest of your life to control the symptoms, which provides a much higher income for pharmaceutical companies...) by Dr. Clark's methods, Skeptic suggests that maybe netav's doctor made an error.

I respond:

As you Alties like to point out, doctors do make mistakes. I agree.


John said:

But if standard medicine is so good, why so quick to offer faulty diagnosis? Oh, it has to be because modern medicine can't cure asthma, so clearly no one else can, either. Better to sacrifice the diagnosing doctor than to suggest that the whole system is rotten.

I respond:

Asthma is not cureable, but, it is manageable. Netav may or may not have had asthma. It is easy to be cured of an incurable condition that you do not have.

John said:

Sounds like Skeptic is just making stuff up as he goes along, doing whatever he can to try to plant doubt in the reader's mind.

I respond:

Nope. Not at all. I have no need to make up anything, as I deal with reality, not the baloney as put forth by Not-A-Doctor Clark.

John said:

Of course, it's hard to get someone to see something when his personal income depends on his not seeing it.

I respond:

You sure do have a good imagination. You have NO idea where my income comes from. I will give you a hint, though, it is not from the field of medicine, or anything related to it.

And, as always, another Altie resports to this blather to avoid coming to grips with the real world. Sad.




 

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