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Hi all,

As I mentioned, I have already called my Congressman and both Senators on this. I suggest ALL of us in the US cause a stink over this. I plan to.

THIS is how we are going to lose our freedoms in the US. By making the Police State...er I mean Patriot Acts permanent, the Bush administration will be able spy on, jail and ultimately strip opponents of their citizenship.

I am going to research this and act. I started reading the Constitution the other night, and I have the complete 'US Government Manual 2001/2002' -- the laws and structure and organization of the whole Federal government (legislative executive and judicial, along with all boards, commissions and agencies) on CD along with the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

I don't plan to become a Constitutional scholar (yet), however if you want to save your liberties in the US, you'd better damn well learn what they are trying to strip away.

I heard the Patriot Act II strips 5 of the 10 Bill of Rights... don't know if it's true, so I better find out. Anyone wanting to help me on this, please do.... wizard@solvnetmail.net



Wiz



Wheelslip already posted this, but here is is again....




GOP wants to keep anti-terror powers/Broad spying tools would become permanent

New York Times

Wednesday, April 9, 2003


Washington -- Congressional Republicans, working with the Bush administration, are maneuvering to make permanent the sweeping anti-terrorism powers granted to federal law enforcement agents after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, officials said Tuesday.

The move is likely to touch off strong objections from many Democrats and even some Republicans in Congress who believe that the Patriot Act, as the legislation that grew out of the attacks is known, has already given the government too much power to spy on Americans.

The landmark legislation expanded the government's power to use eavesdropping, surveillance, access to financial and computer records and other tools to track terrorist suspects. When it passed in October 2001, moderates and civil libertarians in Congress agreed to support it only by making many critical provisions temporary. Those provisions will expire, or "sunset," at the end of 2005 unless Congress reauthorizes them.

But Republicans in the Senate in recent days have discussed a proposal, authored by Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, that would repeal the so-called sunset provisions and make the expanded powers permanent, officials said. Republicans may seek to move on the proposal this week by trying to attach it to another anti-terrorism bill that would make it easier for the government to use secret surveillance warrants against "lone wolf" Terrorism suspects.

Many Democrats have grown increasingly frustrated by what they see as a lack of information from the Justice Department on how its agents are using their newfound powers. The Senate Democratic leader, Tom Daschle of South Dakota, said Tuesday that without extensive review, he "would be very strongly opposed to any repeal" of the 2005 time limit. He predicted that Republicans did not have the votes to repeal the limits.

A senior Justice Department official on Tuesday said the Patriot Act has allowed the FBI to move faster and more flexibly to disrupt terrorists before they strike. "We don't want that to expire on us," the official said.

With the act's provisions not set to expire for more than 2 1/2 years, officials expected that the debate over its future would be many months away.

But political jockeying over separate, bipartisan legislation sponsored by Sens. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., and Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., appears to have given Hatch the chance to move on the issue much earlier than expected.

The Kyl-Schumer measure would eliminate the need for federal agents seeking secret surveillance warrants to show that a suspect is affiliated with a foreign power or agent, such as a terrorist group. Advocates say the measure would make it easier for agents to go after "lone wolf" terrorists who are not connected to a foreign group.

The proposal was approved unanimously by the Senate Judiciary Committee. But Republicans were upset because several Democrats said that when the measure reaches the Senate floor for a full vote, perhaps this week or later in the month, they plan to offer amendments that would impose tougher restrictions on the use of secret warrants.




 

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