Date:   10/1/2005 10:51:52 AM ( 19 y ago)
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Aramaic references that prove the original name for GOD Almighty was indeed "Allah":

The following is from The state of Assyria Aramaic web site.  When you visit their site, click on "Search" at the top blue bar, then click on the "Search Aramaic Lexicon (online directory" link, then type in "God" and click on "English word" radio button.

Few points to learn:

1- In the case of "Aalah" or "Aaloh" Aramaic slang pronounciation, it is almost the same as the "Allah" or "Allawh" Arabic slang pronounciation.

2- In the case of "Aalahaa" or "Aalohaa" Aramaic slang pronounciation, it is also almost the same as the "Allaha" or "Allawha" in the Arabic slang pronounciation.  "Allah" would be pronounced as "Allaha" or "Allaha" in Arabic if it's used in the middle of the sentence.  It can also be pronounced as "Allahi" or "Allahu" or "Allaho" depending on the grammar of the sentence.

3- The Hebew word "Elohim" is the plural of "Elowah", which is derived from the Aramaic word "Alaha", or "Elahh"; the same as the Arabic word "Allah" or "Allawh" in pronunciation.

As I mentioned above, by the way, the two "l"s in "Allah" are written in Arabic as one "l".  In Arabic, if the letter is pronounced twice after each others such as the "m" in "Muhammad", then it is written only once, and a special punctuation called "al-shaddah" is applied on the top of the letter to indicate that it is a double pronunciation.  So the point is, the Arabic "Allah" is written with one "l" and not two "l"s.  Perhaps the old Aramaic thousands of years ago was like that too, and maybe that's why "Allah" is written with one "l" in Aramaic ("Aalah" and not "Aallah" or "Allah").

Further proofs

Here is brother  response to a person who calls himself "Queball23" on the internet regarding the name of GOD Almighty in the Bible:

Queball has maintained that the name "Allah" is derived from "ILAH", a pagan name! And that "Allah" was derived from "ilah" through the use of the definitive "AL" in Arabic, which makes it "Al-Ilah" and then with dropping out of the "i", it becomes "Allah" meaning "The God"!

I answered his fallacies by stating that "Allah" is not what he claimed it to be, and is not "Al-Ilah" as he mentioned. And then cited some Muslims who confirmed his notion, however he failed to realize that the use of such expression as "The God" (al-ilah) is to denote the fact that "Allah" is The Only True God The Creator, and not to mean literally "The God". For one thing, "ilah" does not mean "God", it means "god" (notice that there is no capitalisation of letters in Arabic, it is used here for the western audience's sake).

When i replied to his views with the fact that the word "ilah" could also be spelled "elah" in English since there is no "i" & "e" in Arabic; and that the word "ilah/elah" means "god" generally, in Arabic; this person responded with the saying that "elah" means "oak tree" in Hebrew and not God.

Upon investigating a Christian Hebrew lexicon on the web at site: bible.crosswalk.com, i came across the word "elahh" which is Aramaic and used in the Hebrew bible.

The following is from bible.crosswalk.com:

Thee KJV Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Strong's Number: 0426
Original Word: hhla
Word Origin: corresponding to (0433)
Transliterated Word: 'elahh (Aramaic)'
Phonetic Spelling: 'el-aw'
Parts of Speech: Noun Masculine
Definitions:
- god, God
- god, heathen deity
- God (of Israel)

From the above, it was noticed that the word "elahh" does exist in the Hebrew bible and it means the above-stated definitions. Its phonetic spelling is 100% identical to that of the Arabic "ilah/elah" and its meanings do include the same "god" meaning. This poster was surprised, to say the least, so he had to resort to some tactics to get out of the dilemma!  This time he tried to accuse me of telling a lie and posting an Aramaic word, not a Hebrew word from the Hebrew bible! This is the most silly argument, indeed! The word "elahh" is Aramaic, but is used in the Hebrew bible, so this has no case. Then the same poster moved on to say that this word "elahh" had two "H"s in it and that this cannot be ignored! I replied that my interest was not in the spelling, but in the pronunciation and meaning. There are a hundred ways to TRANSLITERATE different Semetic Languages into English. This is a matter of choosing which letters each individual wants. One Has to go back to the Original Language.

But, sadly, he would not admit to anything that proves his lengthy "anti-Allah" articles void and he kept on about the "extra H" in the word "elahh"! This is beyond our point of discussion, what i was trying to prove to him is that his false claims against the name "Allah" through the abuse of "ilah" were refutable since the Hebrew bible does contain a similar-sounding word which means exactly what "ilah/elah" (in Arabic) does.

It is therefore very easy to notice that "ilah/elah" (in Arabic) sound exactly the same as the Aramaic word "elahh" that is used in the Hebrew bible to mean -god,god (pagan deity), God, God (of Israel), etc.  I wonder if he would use the same argument against the word "elahh" also?!

The correct comparison is between "ilah/elah" (Arabic) and "elahh" (Aramaic) in phonetic spelling and in their meaning of "god". "elahh" is not the same as "Allah" in pronunciation, although one of its meanings is "God" and "God of Israel", but my emphasis was on the similar sound to "ilah/elah" (Arabic) and in it, "elahh", taking on the meaning of "god".

This poster can be silenced about his "anti-Allah" attitude and articles if one only consulted any Arabic translation of the Christian bible from Genesis to Revelation; one would be surprised to see the Christian bible using none other than the very word "ALLAH" for God Almighty The One True God The Creator! I ask him and his Christian comrades to explain to us why does the Arabic translation of the bible use the name "Allah" for God and not the name "YHWH"? It will become even more interesting when one hears the claims of some Arab Christians that it was the Arab Christians who "sort of" developed the Arabic language that we know and that they were the ones to first use such a word as "Allah" and that the Arabic gospel was preached from the time of Paul!! If such claims were true, then why would the Arab Christians, and Paul {supposedly inspired by Jesus} use the name "Allah" for God Almighty? This is a big dilemma for this poster and for his brethren, one of his Arab brothers tried to insinuate the usual "Allah of Islam" is not The True God, or He is different from "Allah" of the bible! But this is absurd! We are not talking about nature or attributes of God here, we are talking about His One Name, the same name used in both the Arabic bible and in the Quran.

I would like also to point out to one more fact that is being circulated about the mention of "Allah" in the Hebrew bible, i.e. the deleted word "Alah". This word, according to some Christians, means "swear". So, I would not depend too much on it since we need to have something of concrete evidence and of acceptability from the Christian critics.

It should suffice to say that none of the anti-Islam critics has come up with any documented, archeological proof on the authenticity and the real and full pronunciation of "YHWH", which is supposed to be the name of God in Hebrew. We all know that "Yahweh" & "Jehovah" are not Hebrew words, the first includes inserted vowels to make possible the pronunciation of "YHWH", while the latter is a western version of "YHWH" with vowels!

Another fact, according to the bible, is that when Moses asked God about His name, He told him that His name is "I am that I am"! The Jews and Christians do a lot of manipulations and interpolations to "guess" the name of God, they make "YHWH" to mean "to be" or "the one who was, the one who is and the one who will always be"! Those are verbs and attributes, not a name! God has One name, and that's "ALLAH". If anyone has any doubts or proofs otherwise, let them bring their proof, starting with an archaeological evidence on how was "YHWH" pronounced in full with vowels, not the later-inserted ones!

One really wonders why do Jews not pronounce the name of God? Could this have anything to do with the fact that they forgot God's name at one stage in history, and that being afraid to mispronounce it from "YHWH", they chose to use literal biblical instructions of not taking God's name in vain?

In Islam and according to the Arabic bible and sincere Arab Christians, God has one name only and it is "ALLAH".

"Allah" is the name of God, it has no derivatives and no definitive & non-definitive formats.

The use of the pagan idol's name "al-lat" to try and prove that "Allah" is the masculine gender whereas "al-lat" is the feminine gender is ridiculous, since this can be refuted from the history of the early Arabs who used to worship idols including "al-lat", but they have always maintained that "Allah" was The Supreme God; The God of Abraham. The pagan Arabs, prior to Islam, never claimed that "Allah" is an idol, nor can any critic bring any proof to "Allah" being a name for any carved idol that was worshipped by the pagan Arabs. And as a matter of fact, the Quran rebukes the Arab pagans for taking "al-lat", "al-uzza" and "manat" as the daughters of "Allah"!

The Christian apologists try hard to refute Islam, and claiming that "Allah" is the name of the "moon god" worshipped by pagan Arabs, and that Muhammad [peace be upon him] came and made "Allah" to be "The Only True God" is a false and wicked statement. One only needs to read the Quran without any bias to notice that Allah forbids the worship of sun, moon and stars; to notice that Allah forbids us to follow the steps of Satan (the devil).

What the some Christians need to notice is that you cannot force your trinity on others, which is a man-made, later interpolated dogma. Just read your bible (OT & NT) with an open heart and notice what Jesus maintained about his status as compared to that of God who sent him. Start with John  17:3 for biblical proof that Jesus was no more than a special prophet of God to the children of Israel.

Further explanations

The word Allah in Arabic is "The God" the word for god in Arabic is ILAH/ELAH as in "LA ILAHA ILALLAH" The word for God in Aramaic is Ilah/Alaha the same as in Arabic. The Language of Jesus was Aramaic not Hebrew, and the closest language to Aramaic is Arabic. In the English Translations of the bible, some translators use the word "ELI" for Elah/Ilah. Thus Jesus used the same word for God as the Arabs and the Quran. and God knows best.

Further proof

LAI stand for Lembaga AlKitab Indonesia or Indonesian Bible Society.

please visit: http://www.alkitab.or.id/foreword.htm

Recently there was a big issue among Christians in Indonesia about the word 'Allah' used as God in the Indonesian's Bible by LAI. Some have said that 'Allah' is not a truth God, and should be used 'Elohim' instead. 

The issue come to the peak when there was a group of Christians produced their version of Bible by removing the word 'Allah' as name of God and put 'Elohim' instead. This version of Bible has started to spread, and Christians in Indonesia have started to confuse, which is which????

In this critical condition, Indonesian Bible Society under United Bible Societies (UBS) - WORLDWIDE BIBLE SOCIETY has wrote a circular to defend that 'Allah' is really the God of every prophet, the article is "Penggunaan "Allah" dalam Alkitab" or in English is "The Using of "Allah" in AlKitab (Bible)" by Dr. Daud H.Soesilo (Email: ubs@mlg.mega.net.id), he start his explanation about who Is 'Allah' originally by:

"el, elohim, eloah adalah nama pencipta alam semesta dalam bahasa Ibrani, bahasa asli Alkitab Perjanjian Lama. Dalam bahasa Arab, allah (bentuk ringkas dari al ilah) merupakan istilah yang seasal (cognate) dengan kata Ibrani el, elohim, eloah."

in English....

"el, elohim, eloah is the name of the creator of the universe in Hebrew (Ibrani), the original language of the Old Testament. In Arabic language, allah (simplified form from from al-illah) is the cognated title with the word in Hebrew for el, elohim, eloah."

please visit the whole explination - all in Indonesia language: http://www.alkitab.or.id/jelas.htm

So this is  to clairify God Almighty's  name HAS been REVEALED the SAME from the beginning to the end. He is the God of this universe and the God of every prophet. It is true all accounts that the Almighty Lords correct transliteration have been deleted, changed and replaced with different words to lead the masses away from the truth. It is historically proven that the Books of the Bible have been edited and changed, and most importantly hidden and possibly destroyed so that any references to Gods Name "Allah, Alah, Allaha, Illah" are not easy to come by.

To make you confirm about this matter please email to Dr. Daud H.Soesilo from UBS or write or Email to Mr. Supardan, the General Secretary of LAI, his address is:

LEMBAGA ALKITAB INDONESIA. All rights reserved.
Jln. Salemba Raya No. 12,
Jakarta 10430 -
Indonesia
Phone: (62-21) - 3142890, Fax: (62-21) - 3101061,
Email: info@alkitab.or.id

Further proof

Even Jesus himself used the word Allah in Aramaic; the language Jesus spoke while he preached the words of GOD Almighty:

ALAAHAA - - - - God
EESHO - - - - Jesus
MSHEEKHAA - - - - Christ
MSHEEKHOOTAA - - - - Christianity
MARRYAA - - - - Lord
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KRRISTEEAANAA - - - - Christian
MAAT MAARRYAAM - - - - our mistress Mary
OOMRRAA - - - - church
QAASHAA - - - - priest
MAARAAN - - - - our Lord Jesus Christ
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SLEEWA - - - - cross
SQEEPAA - - - - crucifix
MKHETAA D SQEEPAA - - - - crucify (verb)
QOORBAANAA - - - - communion / eucherest
QAARWIN - - - - the verb form of taking communion
DOOKHRAANAA - - - - sacrafice/remembrance
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SHAAMAASHAA - - - deacon
MAR GEEWERRGIS - - - - Saint George
SAALEE - - - - pray (verb)
SLOOTAA - - - - prayer
MAAKRRIS - - - - preach (verb)
MAAKRRESTAA - - - - preaching (noun)
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SHMAYAA - - - - heaven
TISHBOOQTAA - - - - glory
MAALAAKHAA (M) / MAALAAKHTAA (F) - - - - angel
HAMIN - - - - believe (verb)
HAMENTA - - - - belief
TUKHNUNTAA - - - - intercession / fervent prayer
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QAADEESHAA (M) / QAADISHTAA (F) - - - - holy / holy person / saint
BREEKHAA / BOORRKHAA - - - - blessed / blessed (past tense)
BARRIKH - - - - bless(verb)
DEENAA - - - - religion
EETAA - - - - a congregation of a church
INVEEYAA - - - - prophet
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TERRYISAARR TELMEETH'E - - - - 12 desciples
PILEEPOOS - - - - phillip
SHIMOON - - - - simon
ANDREE0OS - - - - andrew
YAAQOO - - - - james
MET'E - - - - matthew
BAARTOOMAA - - - - bartholomew
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TELMEETHA - - - - desciple
YOOKHENAA - - - - john
POOTROOS - - - - peter
YEHOODAA - - - - judas
TOOMAA - - - - thomas
ADAY - - - - thadeus
YEHOODAA ISKHAARRYOODEE - - - - judas (the second one)
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QATOOLEEQ'E - - - - catholic
MISHILMAANAA (M) / MISHILMENTAA (F) - - - - muslim
HOODAAYAA (M) / HOODETAA (F) - - - - jewish/hebrew
HINDOOAAYAA (M) / HINDOOETAA (F) - - - - hindu
BOODAAYAA (M) / BOODETAA (F) - - - - buddist
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OSHAANAA - - - - Hosana = an exclaimation of praise to God / also a leaf of  a palm tree (the same leaves that Eeshoo walked on when he went to Jersusalem from Nasserine a few days before He was crucified at 33 years old.
PAAPAA- - - - pope
PAATRREEAARRQAA - - - - patriarch
MUKHRUMTAA - - - - excommunicate
ROOSHUMTAA D SLEEWAA - - - - the action of forming a cross across your chest or face
DYAANTAA - - - - judgement
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MESER / MESRRAAYAA - - - - egypt / egyptian
ORROOSHLOOM - - - - jerusalem
BETILKHIN - - - bethleham
NAASRRIN - - - - nasarine
QYEMTAA D MAARRAAN - - - - resurrection
MELKOOTAA D SHMAYAA - - - - the kingdom of heaven (the kingdom of God)
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SKHETAA - - - - worship
MAASAAR'E - - - - the yearly donation you give to a church
MISHKHETAA - - - - the tribute you give when they pass around the collection plate
DWEKHTAA - - - - donation ** DOOKH - donate (the verb)
PAASHUMTAA / PSHEEMAA - - - - repentance / repent (verb)
MOWDEEYTAA / MOWDOOY'E - - - - confession / confess (verb)
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MAARR - - - - saint
RRUBAANTAA - - - - nun
USRRAA POOYDAAN'E - - - - 10 commandments
YAATEEQ'E - - - - testemant
OORRETAA / YAATEEQ'E ATIQTAA - - - - Bible (Old Testemant)
KHDETAA / YAATEEQ'E KHETAA - - - - Bible (New Testemant)
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BERRYAANAA - - - - creator
QOWLAA - - - - covenent
BURROOMRRAA - - - - monk
SAANAAM'E - - - - idol
QAAYIMTAA - - - - statue
SAAKHDAAN'E - - - - worshipers
SHLEEKHAA - - - - apostle
KHAANPAA - - - - pagan
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PAARROOQAA / PAARQAANAA - - - - savior
BEESHAA - - - - evil/bad
DAAVAA / SPAAYOOTAA - - - - good
ROOKHAA D QOODSHAA - - - - holy spirit / holy spirit
ROOKHAA - - - - soul / spirit
GAANAA - - - - spirit
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TISHBOOQTAA - - - - glory
HEKLAA D ALAAHAA - - - - temple of God
MAAR DINKHAA IV - - - - the name of our patriarch from 1975 to present
M'KHOOSH'E - - - - three wise men
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JAHENEM - - - - hell
SAA'TD'AANAA - - - - satan
AAKHILQAARRSAA - - - - the devil. Literally, "the accuser"
YEZEDAAYAA - - - - devil worshipper
SYEMTAA - - - - ordain
MEEYAA BOORRKH'E - - - - holy water
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JOORRAABAA - - - - temptation
ABOONAA - - - - bishop
LAA M'HOOMNAA (M) / LAA M'HOOMINTAA - - - - athiest / non-believer
KNOOSHYAA - - - - gathering / convention / meeting
KNOOSHYAA D HOODAAY'E - - - - synagogue
MAACHIT - - - - mosque
KHTEETAA - - - - sin
ULMEEN - - - - eternity
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KPOORRYAA - - - - blasphemy / denial of God
KAAPOORRAA (M) / KAAPOORRTAA (F) - - - - infidel / pagan / non-christian
SAAHDAA - - - - martyer
SAAHDOOTAA - - - - martyerdom
QIBLAA - - - - when you give for recieving something special from God
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YOSIP - - - - Joeseph
MOOSH'E - - - - Moses
OWRRAAHIM - - - - abraham
NOOKH - - - - noah
QEEWOOTAA - - - - ark
'TD'OPAANAA - - - - flood
ADAAM OO KHAAWAA - - - - adam and eve
GENTAA D EDEEN - - - - garden of eden
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EEDAA SOORRAA- - - - Christmas
LEL'E D EEDAA - - - - Christmas eve
EEDAA GOORRAA - - - - Easter
RROOTAA D KHISHAA - - - - day of suffering / sorrow (Good Friday)
EEDAA D MAAT MAARYAAM - - - - the day of our mistriss Mary (I gotta look this up (anyone?))
YOOMAA D AAVGAARR - - - - the day of King Abgar Okoomaa (the black one).
December 20 is the day we commemorate our first Chirstian King, King Aavgaar Okhooma V (son of Mano). He was an Ashuree king of Edessa (a city/state in modern day northern Syria) around 32 A.D.. He had a mortal sickness (leprosy) and had told Eeshoo (Jesus) in a letter that he had heard a great deal of him and his miracles. He said he believes in him , "you must be God or the son of God and I ask you to come and cure my sickness". Jesus wrote back and said that his time was occupied but he would send his two apostles (desciples), Didymas Mar Toomaa (Thomas) and Mar Addai (Thaddaeus). After he was cured, he ordered his entire kingdom to convert to Christianity. We
celebrate this day to honor the first Christian Assyrian king, Melka Aavgaarr. Thus, the Assyrians became one of the first Chirstians during the life of Eeshoo Msheekhaa (Jesus Christ). (300 years before Constantinople / Rome). We still, after 2000 years, liturigically honor him in church.
YOOMAA D QAADEESHAA - - - - holy day
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SOMAA - - - - fasting from dairy products and meat
SEEMIT (M) ? / SIMTIT (F) ? - - - - are you fasting?
BAAOOTAA - - - - fasting from all food and water. Usually short. can also mean commitment. people fast baootaa if they desire something holy from God (a child, cure the sickness of a mother, etc.) and to remember the Rogation of the Ninevites
SEEMIT BAAOOTAA (M) ? / SIMTIT BAOOTAA (F) ? - - - - are you fasting the fast of Baootaa ?
AANAA SEEMIN - - - - i am fasting
MAAMOODOOTAA / MAAMOOD'E - - - - christiananize-baptize // Christianize-baptize (verb)
AAJIBOOTAA - - - - miracles
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Phrases and Common Sayings:
ALAAHAA REKHMAANEL'E - - - - God is merciful
BE KHDETA - - - - on the word of the bible
YA ALAAH - - - - Oh God
ALAAHAA MINAAKH (F) / MINOOKH (M) - - - - God be with you
MINOOKH MOODAAL'E (M) / MINAAKH MOODAAL'E (F) - - - - with you also (the response)
ALAAHAA NAADIRAAKH (F) / NAADIROOKH (M) - - - - God keep you in well being
ALAAHAA MAANIKHL'E (M) / MAANIKHLAA (F) - - - - God rest his (M) / her (F)
soul (What you say to someone when someone they love dies.)
ALAAHAA BAARIKHLAAKH (F) / BAARIKHLOOKH (M) - - - - God bless you
SHIMAA D ALAAHAA - - - - in the name of God
SHQEER'E D ALAAHAA - - - - thanks to God
BRREKHM'E (BEE RREKHM'E) - - - - with His (God's) mercy. what you say to someone after they sneeze
MAARRYAA / AALAAHAA SAAHAADIL'E - - - - honest to God / the lord/God is the witness
MINTAA MIN ALAH / MINTAA MIN MAARRYAA - - - - with thanks to God/the lord / with obligation to God/the lord . MINTA=obligation
BRROOCHTAA D MAARRYAA / BROOCHTAA D AALAAHAA - - - - a blessing from lord/God. When God has given a person , family, home something blessed. (EX. if you have a wonderful wife, you say to her, "AATEN EEWAAT BOORRICHTAA D AALAAHAA (you are a blessing from God)").

PEACE

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