Date:   2/19/2005 1:29:30 PM ( 19 y ago)
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I am wondering if I should buy the Cats Claw, I cannot get an answer from my pendulum.

I have studied lyme and from what I have read and been told by my LLMD, Lyme Literate MD, there are 3 forms of lyme.
BTW, I have had lyme about 16 years, only started treating it one year ago.

the Spirochete, the L-Form, and the Cyst form.

From what I had read and learned I believe that POSSIBLY the L-form of lyme is a culprit in autoimmune diseases for some of us.

The L-form of lyme is a cell wall dificient form. If you are familiar with the Marshall Protocol, they talk about cell wall deficient bacteria as a culprit in autoimmune disease....
what happens is this...
the bacteria, the L-form, can go INTO our cells, I think the white blood cells, and then our own immune system, recognizes that there is a bacteria in us, and so starts attacking it,

BUT! the bacteria is in our cells, and the immune system does not know this, so it just keeps hacking away to kill it, it is
attacking our own cells attempting to get at the bacteria, but it cannot, it keeps damaging our own cells.

The Antibiotics for cell wall defient bacteria, are the tetracyclines. Such as the Doxycycline, the minocycline and so on. These Antibiotics can get INTO our cells, and kill the bacteria, this then STOPS the autoimmune like reaction.

I believe from studying that SOME viruses that we are born with... can do this too, or they are actually DORMANT in our own cells, and when something gets wacky, they are activated and
our own immune system attacks the virus IN our cells.

SO! what I am thinking is this...

does the cats claw get INTO our cells to kill the bacteria, or does it only stimulate the immune system to kill the bacteria.

IF the cats claw does not get into my cells to kill the bacteria, I would not want it.

The ONLY thing for me that works to get well from this autoimmune like condtion I acquired since going OFF anitbiotics for a break is.... the Doxycyline. Possibly the Minocycline, not sure.

If I dont take Doxycycline right now, I will die. My body starts to attack itself, the lungs and the worst, the throat too.

The doxy gets into my cells and I start to get die-off.
It is def helping me, and possibly this is all I need, not sure.


So, does anyone know of people using it with lupus? or the sjgrodens syndrome? I have both of these and the doxy has save my life, but still not well, maybe just need longer on the Doxy.

I have used echinacea and NO! way, this is bad news for me. I get so much worse. Anything that stimulates my immmune system makes me worse. Even the sun now makes me sick.
I do though notice that as long as I stay on the Doxycycline, my sun sickness gets better. I went off Doxy, and near died again.

comments?

thanks,

Gehna
 

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