Everything happens for a reason? or Chaos theory? by Karlin ..... Philosophy Debate Forum
Date: 5/5/2004 5:27:23 PM ( 21 y ago)
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No, its not true at all - everything does not happen for a reason, but there is a reason for that.
If anything - "Nothing happens 'for a reason', for a reason":
Chaos is Better at providing a good outcome.
Chaos is how this world came about. The universe was formed out of star dust[hydrogen molecules], kicked out at random, joining up again at random, with all possibilites and combinations occuring at some point. All things happen, and earth was one of them.
That is the a bit like the chaos theory pf modern physics, and it makes sense to describe the human experience as we ask ourselves why this or that happens.
So when we look at human experience [our lives], and try to see a long-range plan or some form to it all, we will say: "things happen for a reason". We use that when someone dies at the wrong time, or in the face of terrible loss.
We want to believe that our lives and the events of the world are guided somehow, by physical/spiritual principals, or by god, or that life has some meaning or purpose.
Thats just insecurity. We can look to the chaos theory and see that in order for life [things] to develop properly, chaos is the way. That is not comfortable to us, we prefer orderlyness in an immediate sense, and long term. But now would be fine. And chaos is happeneing all the time, right now - the order we see is an illusion. We crave something that cannot be, since we need chaos in order to have order, just as we need death to have life.
Otherwise, some smartass would decide to put his stamp on it, to guide the world by his bright light. We crave some order than we can understand, and we do tend to manipulate things to match it. But we are too small still, and for us to make our visions of the future to come about as we would like is dangerous, short sighted. It would collapse.
So for protection against guiding the whole process ourselves, chaos becomes necessary , as it always has been. Things do not happen 'for a reason' - that would ruin it.
Instead, things happen, And happen, And happen , And happen. All things will eventually happen and the most suitable combinations will survive and become the new. it will just happen, over time, slowly. Too slow for us to see [except for us Virgos].
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EG:
The weather will change over time, and create a whole different biosphere on earth. If humans tried to guide or interfere with that process, it will simply collapse the biosphere and very little would remain, but it would come back, not healthier and better, but "injured", recovering.
If chaos is the only guide, all weather will happen, and it will cancel out extremes and remain more stable that way. Chaos, not reason, is our best guide.
Evolution has allways been that way. No reason overall for 'that species to die and that one to live', other than the immediate reason of "stronger faster better". When an indivuidual trips up and dies, we say "its for a reason". Nope, it just happens as chaos. All things will happen. We will all fall. Or not.
"Nothing happens for a reason"
There is a reason nothing happens for a reason - chaos works better.
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Karlin
[a Virgo][we will make sense of it FOR you]
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