Date:   7/10/2006 3:44:26 AM ( 19 y ago)
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Have no fear 'sport, you've never given me a beating at anything so you can dispense with the rhetoric.

It is your *unsupported assertion* that natural selection cannot work over a few generations as well as over hundreds or thousands. You then use this basless claim to make mistaken statements about phenotypic plasticity being the major driving force behind change in populations of organisms. In other words, you're just another in a long line of creationists who says that information cannot be added to the genome via mutations, so it all must have been preloaded by the creator, waiting to jump out on environmental cues.

It is also your empty claim that phenotypic plasticity cannot be explained by biologists. What universe do you live in? I have told you repeatedly that the *ability* to adapt can be selected for if a population of organisms is situated in an enivornment which changes (particularly if it changes in predictable ways, i.e. the passing of the seasons in the higher latitudes). So animals like arctic foxes get thick winter coats which they shed in the very short summer months (otherwise they'd overheat). It is interesting to note that desert foxes have not acquired this trait through evolution, as they have not been in an environment that requires this particular *ability* to grow a thicker coat in winter. Move the desert fox to the arctic and it will die, not suddenly start growing a winter coat like arctic foxes do! This would seem to be something of a critical blow to your "all information is latent in the genome and requires only environmental prompting to be expressed" hypothesis.

It is my point that evolution can work over even a couple of generations. Things like a small change in beak size, or bacterial resistance to Antibiotics , are the result of very powerful selection pressures (i.e. those that are not as well suited to the environment will expire and/or fail to rear young). Furthermore, not all evolution happens at the same rate, so an observation of rapid evolution does not threaten evolution itself. All this stuff is demonstratable and has been well known to evolutionists for years.

I have also demonstrated to you on other boards, via examples of genetic algorithms, how mutations add information to the genome and how adaptibility can arise without the need for the information corresponding to that adaption to be preloaded. You avoided those posts, invoking the tired excuse that because it was a simulation on a computer, that gave you license to ignore it. So much for all modern computer simulations and research tools then! They're all useless because 'sport has decreed anything done on a computer to not be valid "in the real world" ;)

Are you going to address any of this or continue to cross post your nonsense across multiple forums?

Andrew
 

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