Date:   6/11/2004 10:17:54 AM ( 20 y ago)
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It appears you really don't care how I answer you, but I'll do it anyway.
*Sounds like I offended you by having a different set of eyes...why would anyone who is equally made in the image of the same Almighty be offensive for having different experience...I have no problem with you or your interpretation, only that you want to limit others. I wouldn't dream of limiting you - I know I am limitless*

First of all, I quoted the Bible, GOD's Word-- not mine.
*The BIBLE was written by MEN, was this channelled information? None of us know for certain, if the Lord could contact them, he can also contact you and I just the same*

We can spend our whole lives throwing our human opinions at each other without resolving anything
*I agree, that is exactly what I said*
but with an external Authority there is such a thing as Absolute Truth and a final answer to all of life's questions.
*It is still your interpretation of Truth...when I read the Bible I don't get the same message*
Otherwise it doesn't matter what anyone believes. *FINALLY, TRUTH*

You infer that I have my own personal "method" as you put it to finding favor with God. That's a lie.
*How so? My dear one, we all have a personal method of accessing our divinity, we are supposed to, that is why we were created just a little unique, I have red wavy hair and blue grey eyes with white skin and a big smile...how were you made?*
I didn't write the Bible, I just read it and study it and quote it. If you have a problem with that, you'll have to complain to the Author-- GOD.
*I have no complaint with the Bible, I have been reading it for well over 50 years and LOVE IT and what those wise men so many years ago wrote as guidance whether it was given them by the Divine in no matter what manner it was given I'm only sadded with limiting interpretation.*

But YOU seem to think you have all the answers, *Yes, I do have constant peace and joy with what I have - and that seems to upset you*
and you're eager to beat those who disagree with you over the head with it
*There was no beating on my part, could you possibly have misinterpreted me, my message is only that of love and honor, it is only your preception that imagined beating of any kind
How could it offend you that I have peace and joy, isn't that what this is all about? Isn't that what you say you want us to all have? Why are you angry? Why do you imagine me attempting to harm you?*

How, pray tell, is that different from what you accuse me of doing? *I have joined in a debate to share the joy and love and honor I feel, you are welcome to do the same*
Q: Why is it okay for you to challenge my beliefs but not for me to challenge yours? *You may challenge my beliefs, I and they can withstand it, I honor you and your beliefs, however it is sad you cannot reciprocate...not very Christlike in my humble opinion, but I forgive you and do not judge you for it*

Fear? I have no fear of the next life because I know the One who controls it. But there is good reason to fear God if you won't come to him on HIS terms.
*He and I speak on this all the time! and we have made an agreement of terms long ago, therefore I have no fear of him or what anyone says about my relationship with Him.*

I didn't invent this God, so don't blame me for your perception of him. *What is it you think I am blaming you of doing? I am very happy with GOD I don't understand what you are trying to say...This is unclear*
It is hate, not love, that fails to warn people in danger or show them the way to be saved. *This comment makes no sense to me, please expand, it is unclear how being at peace and joy is hateful...can you run that by me again?*

You asked, saved from what? The short answer is Hell. *From the tone of your message, it sounds as if you live there now, listen to how distressed you have become - you are clearly experiencing distressed emotions or a living hell, which is what I imagine hell to be a fearful confusion, anger, head spinning, not being able to speak clearly or be connected with the divinity within you*
I don't care whether you believe in it, your lack of belief can't make it disappear. *Sure I can, I am only limited by my beliefs! Are you so upset because I don't beleive the same way as you do? I wish for one moment you could feel the love and joy and peace I do, you would feel so much better than you do now*
But I DO care whether you go there, so that's why I spread the Gospel-- the way to be saved from hell. *Thank you for your concern, I don't fear hell and I am guaranteed not go reside there ever! I live in a state of love not fear or anger (see my note above)*

Here in Curezone there are many WARNINGS about allopathic medicine. Isn't that spreading FEAR by your definition?
*No, not really, I sense that discerning the value of both approaches has been missed by your interpretation of the information herein, your conclusion is flawed...I have learned much here that breaks the illusions many things in life presents us*
Why don't you get in Curezone's face about all the FEAR they're spreading? Oh, that's right, you AGREE with their position,
*You are making an uninformed assumption, there is valid information as well as some fear based, I discern what is illusory, and take what is needed - not all in here is good, however, others experience and questions are worthwhile...allopathy also has value, it has saved my life a couple times, but there may be a blending of the value of both which we are creating through this medium* How is expressing my opinion in a debate getting in your face - are you having a problem by imagining things still?

so it's okay for them to spread fear in the name of helping people. But it's NOT okay to spread fear to help people if it means agreeing with the Bible. I sincerely hope you get my point.
*I get the point that you are fearful angry and defensive that I don't share the same view as you, and I've "shaken your tree" apparently. That was not my intent, but such anger which you have shown - I wonder if it wouldn't be wise for you to read the Bible and Christ's words again...it is clearly evident that you don't understand what a debate means, it is further evident in the distress you have voiced that you are not practicing the same love you intend others to share...Go ask Jesus for help on this, I have it in good standing he will aid you work through this difficult time you are experiencing now if you will allow it. Open your heart and mind, it is what HE wants. And what I hear you saying you want* Come to me as a little child...

With love honor and respect,
Deborah
 

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