Date:   4/30/2004 8:42:06 AM ( 20 y ago)
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URL:   https://www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=396439

LOL! You crack me up. Hidden agenda, conspriracy behind every door! Too funny. I've been involved in this "health" thing for close to 30 years. I've fasted for 21 days on water and so on and so on. Support has nothing to do with facts. What are the facts, if you don't want to discuss them, then don't whine about something and then delete a message that is truth. Fact is that Sunlight.com isn't presenting a truthful comparison and others. I never stated FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) was a bad technology and probably "discovered" and employed it long before you. What I stated very clearly was that applying it to sauna is a very expensive way to go and would not provide nearly enough benefits as other devices employing FIR. Technologies, including health ones change all the time and one should be very cautious about spending thousands of dollars based on a vendors claims or other un-controlled tests. Again the discussion was about sauna with FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) not FIR.

You just supported the quack sites and clearly are incapable of having an intelligent discussion about the issue. Show me the studies of FIR (Far-Infrared-Sauna) with sauna, where are they? Cleaims by vendors abound, people need real evidence. Isn't that what were all after - the truth? FIR technology can be used cheaply for excellent results without spending thousands on a "miracle" contraption. I purchased one at least 5 years ago and still have my Healthmate sauna but do not use it and will sell it.

Do not and I repeat do not tell me I have a hidden agenda when I have many experiences to share and whether good or bad do not need to be monitored by you. Having someone run around a forum spreading fairy dust does little to help anyone.

I remember doing Richard Anderson's master phase for 22 days straight releasing tons of "mucoid plaque". I also remember being sold emphatically by all the literature, his books and the internet vendor that this was "life changing". Well it was, and very much for the worse. Andreas Moritz is the best I've ever read or heard on the "health subject" and I wished I had heard remarks about that person and claims before I did the cleanse. He was absolutely correct. His remarks aren't nice, aren't kind but tell the truth and sure as hell would have helped me.

Again good luck and believe me I won't bother with forums like this again. As an aside I was trying to be helpful from the beginning, however to have someone go La-dee-dah and say "I disagree to disagree" is just silly and disrespectful. So I would say the shoe is on the other foot.

By your own words you have slandered me, I am insulted,, although laughably. There is absolutely no hidden agenda - that is just childish. If you are going to have forums, forum groupies and monitors at least be prepared to discuss the damn issue. Jeez, cry me a river. By the way there's nothing I said that trashes FIR, it questions the voracity of claims about FIR with sauna and how they may just be a tad bit overblown, not a miracle cure and certainly no more benefit than conventional sauna. I raised many questions, zero have been addressed.

What's funny is I think your the one with the hidden agenda! Everybody learns from everyone else, I choose not to bury my head in the sand and will ask all the questions and challenge all I damn well please. If the owners of this site are using peoples donations to run it, then the people have a right to expect fair and equal treatment. If those that monitor forums cannot perform respectfully of all persons whether they disagree or not then what's the point?

So if someone does a liver cleanse releases a huge number of stones, feels like crap for months afterwards and still can't recover - this should be hidden from the public? Because the normal uniformed pill popping person would run like hell if they read that guys thread? Grow up already.








 

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