Date:   3/16/2002 1:59:16 PM ( 22 y ago)
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> I did the flush 2 weeks ago, I had been diagnosed as "no stones" by ultrasound.


In 50% of cases, ultrasound is wrong! You can't trust to that diagnoses!

If doctor discovers stones, you are 99% sure it is true!
If doctor doesn't discover stones, it is only true in 25% of cases!



> I got out some of the stuff you all describe, but not with nearly the dramatic volumes.


Most people get little or sometimes even nothing on their first cleanse! But, it takes time to bring liver and gallbladder to the level of health wehere those organs can let stones go out!



> I still ached constantly but reasoned that my gallbladder had been sick for a while and would take a while to heal, so was not overly concerned.



Have you had pain before cleanse?



> After several days I thought I did feel a little better, but now I feel worse than ever! I can't eat anything, even liquids bother me.
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It is time for the second clenase!


I need answers on the next questions in order to be able to give you any good advice:

Your Age?
Do you have kis? How many?
Your weight? Your height?
Your blood type? Your ethnical background?

Your short medical hystory:
- when did you first time experience an attack
- what have you been doing since
- your diet, what do you usually eat?
- have you ever used birth control pills
- do you drink coffee?
- do you smoke?
- have you ever used narcotics?
- have you ever used medical drugs for long time?
- any chronical disease?



Can you drink clean spring water without feeling pain?
Can you drink freshly pressed grapefruit juice?
Can you drink freshly pressed apple juice?
Can you drink freshly pressed carrot juice?



> I have lost a total of 32 pounds since this all started!
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Don't worry about loosing weight.
Body always do its best.



The weight that you have lost, is that body fat (fat you can touch under your skin(stomach) ), or do you feel that you are loosing muscles?



> Something has got to give. I'm about ready to have the surgery.



Do second cleanse instead!

Or do reflexotherapy immediately.

Or massage (shiatsu) or acupressure immediately!


It is almost never too late for surgery!


Surgery may remove gallbladder, but your problems may be from the liver that is full of stones!

In that case, surgery will not help much.


It is rarely too late for surgery.

But, once it is done, there is no way back.


Read story in this forum posted by Adrienne.


For many people, surgery is not a solution for the pain.



> Since my cleanse I have been taking power fiber and lipotropic complex to cleanse the liver and a good organic multi-vitamin.



I suggest you to avoid taking any industrial product (pills, capsules), and to get juicer, and start juicing vegetable.
You will get all vitamins and minerals that you need!


Fresh vitamins are 100 times better then pills!



Freshly pressed radish juice is known to dissolve liver and gallbladder stones.

Also, freshly pressed apple juice can aid dissolving stones.

Most juices aid liver and GB function!




> I don't think I can get any more Epsom Salts down, I was throwing up by the forth dose last time.



Try dissolving Epsom Salts in freshly pressed grapefruit juice!

That way, you will like its taste!



> I was thinking of cleaning out my system with organic apple juice instead-will that work?



Try! Do not ask!
If you don't try, you don't know!



> Then move into olive oil and fresh sqeezed grapefruit juice. My Naturopath thought that would work--what do you think?



Any problem "inniciated" by liver cleanse, can be corrected by the next liver cleanse, or next several cleanses.


You can do liver cleanse every day (for 2 or 3 days), if you have an acute problem!



Juice fasting inbetween helps a LOT!




> I'm really getting scared at this point.



Don't!

Your body have healing abilities, do not supress them with your fear!



> I know a man who almost died from pancreatitis when his gallbladder poisened his system.



That can not happen if you are juice fasting!

Do not scare yourself!

That can only happen for people eating meat, cheese and junk foods.



>I'm afraid to let this go to much further.


Slow down. Calm yourself!


This is the way to go:



- Reflexotherapy (this is a must!)
(put stones or marbles on the flore, and walk on it for 1 hour in the morning, and one hour in the evening!)
This is very important!!!! Do not be affraid to step on it!

It should be painful!
You should walk until you start sweating!
If ypu happened to live close to some stone beach, then go there, take off your shoes, and walk barefoot until pain in your feet is so intense that you can't walk any more.

After few days of walking, feet will adjust, and you will not feel as much pain.

That walking can aid healing proces more then anything else you do!




- Shiatsu massage, or acupressure or other form of massage (this is must!)

Visit an experienced massage therapist at least 2 times a week, and get strong and painful treatment!
Good acupressure or Shiatsu is painful.
But, you should feel good after!




- take 1 teaspoon of Epsom Salts daily dissolved in 2 cups of freshly pressed grapefruit juice!

This is very important.
Read articles about magnesium, posted on this web site!


- liver cleanse (cleanse your liver every 2 weeks, for the next 6 months!)


- Water Cure (if you can drink clean water)
- salt cure!

- Juice fasting (if you can drink fresh juices)
(you will need juicer! You can get cheap used one on ebay.com )

Read about juicing on this web site!
It is one of the most powerfull healing method!
Do not be affraid to loose weight!



- Take every day 10 tbsp of olive oil with freshly pressed grapefruit juice!



Do another liver cleanse, but use fresshly pressed grapefruit juice instead of water.

That way you will not feel unpleasant taste!


Read Liver Cleanse FAQ (forum73) on this web site!

Read stories from other people who experienced pain after cleansing!


Please answer to the questions!
Answer on those questions can make a big difference in what we will sugest to you.


Do not panic! You are still having things under control!

If you follow the guidelines we just gave you, you will winn!

Read and learn and try!


Best of health

Agnes & Lillian

 

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