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Let me just share what I found.

But first let me say that the following is from another forum whereby a comparison was done and I have to say from intitial comparison it looks rather condemning for the trio. If this news continues to grow this will be a sticky kettle of...
hmmmmmm not fish (raw forum after all) umm a sticky jar of mashed blueberries. Any way take a look people. vegan_mark seems to be *ON* the mark, or at least on the trail of a very hot topic! :-)

I will try to get a copy of the book so I can see it first hand. I have a call into a fellow respected curezone "rawian", who has published a book report on "Raw Eating." This will give us another important perspective. All I can say is wow!!!

Stay tuned.

NOTE: Plaigerism and any theft of intellectual property is a serious crime. I see this taking place all the time (especially on the internet..sometimes right under our noses) where people want to appear as something they ar not. Insecurity dis ease.

____________________________________________________________
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20056.html
From: Peter Brandt


Subject: More plagiarism from NFL

There has lately been circulating a rumour in the raw community that the
book "Nature's First Law" by Stephen Arlin, Fouad Dini & David Wolfe is
nothing but a plagiarized version of "Raw Food Eating" an out of print book
by the Iranian author Arshavir Ter Hovannessian written almost 40 years
ago. With a little help from my friends I got the chance to compare the two
books, and I can now conclude that the rumour is true. From glancing
through "Raw Eating" it seems that virtually each chapter has been lifted
with some re-wordings or added paragraphs dispersed in between and
transcribed into what is now "Nature's First Law."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, first paragraph:

"Raw vegetable food should be the only nourishment taken by man. The habit
of eating cooked food should be abandoned in this world once and for all.
This is the unerring demand of nature. The consumption of cooked food is
the most terrible barbarism in the history of mankind, a barbarism that no
one seems to be aware of and to which everybody falls an unconscious
victim. No matter how strange the idea may seem to some, it is the
absolute truth with which we cannot but acquiesce."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, first paragraph:

"Raw plant food should be the only food eaten by human beings. Humanity's
habit of eating cooked food must be abandoned in this world once and for
all. This is the absolute command of Nature. The consumption of cooked
food is the most unnatural savagery in the history of humankind. It is an
atrocity that no one seems to be aware of and to which everybody falls an
unconscious victim. What people eat deeply and radically affects the way
they think, feel, and behave. It drastically affects the entire life
process of planet Earth. No matter how strange the idea may seem to some,
it is the absolute truth that humanity must accept. To most, the truth is
stranger than fiction."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, second paragraph:

"This truth became evident to me when, after eighteen years of careful
study and investigation, I became convinced that the deaths of my ten-year
old son and fourteen-year old daughter were caused by unnatural nutrition.
The great number of medical examinations carried out in Iran, France, and
Germany and Switzerland in various attempts made to discover some specific
disease in their organisms and the subsequent administration of numerous
remedies had a considerable share, too, in bringing the tragedy to a head.
My children died by the gradual emaciation and wasting away of all their
organs caused by innatural feeding and poisonous medicines."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, second paragraph:

"This truth became evident to these three authors when, after years of
careful study and investigations, we became convinced that the deaths of
our family members, friends, and pets were caused by unnatural nutrition.
In turn, improper nourishment caused the premature degeneration of their
cellular structures. All the medical examinations carried out to diagnose
their specific diseases and all the drugs and medicines they were coerced
to ingest also had a considerable share in bringing the tragedy to a head.
Our family members, friends, and pets died of the gradual emaciation and
wasting away of their internal organs caused by unnatural feeding and
poisonous medicines."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, third paragraph:

"I have been able to penetrate into the secrets of medical Science and to
observe its good and bad aspects all the more clearly, because I have not
been inspired by the prospects of becoming a doctor or of making any
financial gains. My incentive has been in the first place to wish to do my
best for the recovery of the health of my beloved children, and later the
ardent desire to perpetuate their memory by being useful to humanity."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, third paragraph:

We have been able to penetrate into the secrets of medical Science and to
observe its good and bad aspects. We have not been driven by the prospect
of becoming doctors or by making any financial gains by lying. First, our
incentive has been to do our best to help our families and friends achieve
greater levels of health. And later, it has been the ardent desire to
perpetuate the memory of those family members and friends who have passed
away by being useful to humanity.

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 8, last paragraph:

"The results of eighteen years of painstaking study and labour have been
embodied in a work of two large volumes the first of which, a book of 568
pages, was published in Armenian in 1960."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 3, last paragraph:

"The results of years of painstaking study and labor have been embodied in
this work. As far as possible, we have devoted our time to the study of a
great many branches of Science and to the sources of these multifarious
categories of knowledge."

"Raw Eating", last chapter, page 117, 4th paragraph from the end:

"The man of today is very proud of his civilization, but he is far from
being really civilized. Real civilization should be measured not by mere
technical progress, but BY THE ENNOBLEMENT OF THE MIND AND SOUL OF THE
INDIVIDUAL, THE CONQUEST OF VICES AND ADDICTIONS, AND THE
EMANCIPATIONS OF
THE HUMAN INTELLECT FROM SUPERSTITIONS."

"Nature's First Law", last chapter, page 189, 4th paragraph from the end:

"People of today are proud of their civilization, but they are far from
being really civilized. Real civilization should be measured not by mere
technological progress, but by the ennoblement of the individual, the
conquest of vices and addictions, the emancipation of the human intellect
from superstitions, and the forwarding of a genetically pure population."

I have no intention of comparing all the chapters but at this point I would
be very surprised if much original thought can be found in "Nature's First
Law".

Best, Peter
nourish@ix.netcom.com


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:19:22 -1000


From: Nieft / Secola


Subject: Re: More plagiarism from NFL

I finally have my first edition of NFL and a copy of Raw Eating by A.T.
Hovanessian in hand, and, as promised earlier, would like to post a few
snippets from each for everyone's amusement. Peter certainly wasn't
kidding when he said the plagiarism appeared to be extensive. Indeed,
it is nearly paragraph for paragraph in many chapters. Since it is so
unbelievably easy to find the matching paragraphs (mostly they are in
order, blow by blow, but there has been some rearranging) which were so
blatently stolen, I may post a periodic reminder of NFL's absolute lack
of honesty, integrity, and originality. Until they threaten to sue
me--then I'll post them SEMI-periodically ;)


Find below nearly all of NFL's Chapter 5, as it is ripped off from Raw
Eating. Don't worry--an NFL "chapter" is only six paragraphs in this
case ;) And as a special bonus for plowing through that whoooooooole
chapter there awaits you my personal favorite (so far at least) in NFL
plagiarism at the end.

For those of you with Eudora, Hovanessian's words in blue; NFL's
"words" in red...

[THOSE ALL-CAPS WOULD BE LIL 'OL ME]

===

Hovanessian, paragraph one, page 13: Addiction to Cooked Food is the
Most Dangerous of All Vices

0000,0000,FFFFThe reader may naturally wonder why
none of the numerous scientists and professors sees these simply truths
and why nobody tells us that eating cooked foods is unnatural and
dangerous. The reason is that the whole of mankind are food addicts and
food-addiction has blinded everybody. Nobody realizes that
cooked-eating is a vice and that it is indeed the most terrible of all
vices.

NFL page 15, Chapter 5: FFFF,0000,0000Cooked
Food: A Physio-Chemical Addiction

"Addiction conquers science and takes it into its talons."
--Aterhov

[A DIRECT QUOTE FROM "ATERHOV"!!! AS IF THE REST ISN'T "QUOTED" AS
WELL.)

FFFF,0000,0000Many people naturally wonder why
none of the numerous "learned" scientists and philosophers understand
these simple Truths and why nobody has yet told humanity that eating
cooked food is unnatural and dangerous. The reason is that all of
humanity is addicted to cooked food and that addiction has blinded
everybody. Nobody realizes that cooked-food eating is a vice. It is, in
fact the most terrible vice of all..

===

Hovanessian, page 13, still the first paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFIt is not a craving after only one
kind of substance but the sum total of one's voracious longings for
thousands of substances (and what "marvellous", "desirable" substancs
at that!). Besides, short-sighted cooked-eaters see richness and
excellence in the multiplicity of the debasements to which foodstuffs
are subjected, whereas it is the very multiplicity of the dabasements
that gives rise to the multiplicity of harms, the true reflection of
which can be seen in the large variety of illnesses which prevail in
the world today.

NFL page 15 Chapter 5, second paragraph of Chapter 5:

FFFF,0000,0000Cooked-food addiction encompasses
not just a craving for one type of substance, but hundreds, even
thousands, of substances. On top of this, short-sighted cooked-eaters
see richness and excellence in the mutiplicity of debased foodstuffs.
It is this very multiplicity of debasements that gives rise to a
multiplicity of harms. A true reflection of this can be seen in the
large variety of illnesses that prevail in the world today--especially
in the "rich, developed" world. (NICE TOUCH, EH? SINCE IRAN WAS
NEITHER]

===

Hovanessian, page 13, second paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFMan becomes addicted to these
substances that contain poisons such, as tea, coffee, tobacco, alcohol,
opium, cocaine, morphine, etc. The strong craving for these substances
is stimulated by corresponding poisons collected in the human organism.
Cooked foods produce a large variety of poisons which, in the course of
time, are stored in different parts of the organism, such as on the
walls of veins and capillaries, between the joints, in the center of
fat cells and elsewhere.

NFL page 15-16, 3rd and 4th paragraph of chapter 5:

FFFF,0000,0000Human beings become addicted to
substances that contain poisons, such as tea, coffee, cooked marijuana,
cooked tobacco, alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc. Addictions promote and
defend themselves. [DOES THAT MAKE NFL AN ADDICTION, I WONDER
;) AND IS RAW MARIJUANA AND RAW CHEWBACCO OK BY NFL THEN? ;)]

FFFF,0000,0000 The strong craving for these
substances is stimulated by corresponding poisons collected in the
human organism. Cooked foods contain a large variety of poisons which,
in the course of time, are stored in different parts of the body. They
are deposited on the walls of veins and capillaries, between the
joints, in the center of fat cells, and elsewhere.

===

Hovanessian, page 13, still the second paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFJust as the craving of a drug
addict for heroin does not arise from the normal physiological needs of
his body, so the desire of a cooked-food eater for cooked food, his
feeling of hunger, is not the normal demand of his organism; rather it
is the demand of his addiction. It is the expression of impulses that
are stimulted by the poisons collected in the human organism; it is the
demand of the diseases nestled in the body, the call of man's worst
enemy.

NFL, page 16, paragraph 5 of chapter 15:

FFFF,0000,0000The crack addict's craving for rock
cocaine does not arise from the normal physiological needs of the
organism; it is created by a physio-chemical addiction. Similarly, the
desire for cooked food, is not a physiological need, but a
physio-chemical addiction. It is the expression of impulses that are
stimulted by the poisons and malformed cells thriving in the organism.
It is the demand of the diseases nestled in the body, the call of
humanity's worst enemy. [LEST ANYONE CLAIM THEY ARE SEXIST, EH?
;)]

===

Hovanessian, page 13, third and final paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFThat terrible vice is introduced
into the body of every human being by his own parents right from the
cradle. That is why the moment the baby begins to take notice and start
talking, food-addiction has already secured a firm hold on him and from
that moment to the very end of his life he regards cookd food as his
normal diet and his strong craving for it as his physiological demand;
it is this that he mistakes for real hunger.

NFL, 16, sixth and final paragraph (except for the "cooked food is
poison" tag ;)):

FFFF,0000,0000That terrible vice is introduced
into the body of every human being by his or her own mother when still
an embryo via the umbilical cord and placenta. Once the child is born
the parents unwittingly continue this insane process. Even before the
child has learned to talk, cooked-food addiction has already secured a
physio-chemical hold on the organism. From that moment to the end of
s/he regards cooked food as normal and natural and the craving for it
s/he mistakes for hunger.

=====

[HERE IS A BONUS PARAGRAPH FOR READING THIS FAR]

Hovanessian, page 108, third full paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFPerhaps some of my readers may not
like my tone of writing. In their opinion my expressions should
preferably be more scientific (adorned with a Latin terminology
unintelligible to most people), more conciliatory (complaisant), more
serious (hypocritical), more compromising (unscrupulous), more
courteous (lying), and more tactful (cowardly). But I prefer to be
decisive, sincere and bold. And that is how I shall be, even if I find
the whole world against me. I am confident that I shall be supported by
all sensible people and vindicated by future generations.

NFL, page 178-9

FFFF,0000,0000Perhaps some people do not like our
tone of writing. In their opinion our expressions should preferably be
more scientific (adorned with Greek and Latin terminology
unintelligible to most people), more conciliatory (milquetoast), more
serious (hypocritical), more compromising (unscrupulous), more
courteous (filled with lies), and more tactful (cowardly). We are
driven by forces seeded in our blood. We are decisive and bold. We are
accurate and succinct. We hold nothing back and get right to the point.
That is how we shall be, even if we find the whole world against us. We
are confident that we shall be supported by all sensible people and
vindicated by future generations.

====

[ONCE AGAIN, MORE "SUCCINCTLY" IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST
TIME:]

====

Hovanessian, page 108, third full paragraph, third sentence:

0000,0000,FFFFBut I prefer to be decisive,
sincere and bold.

NFL, page 179, second full sentence:

FFFF,0000,0000We are decisive and bold.

====

They are laughing stocks is more like it. A final chesnut before I call
it a night:

NFL, from page 173 in the first edition (and from p.171 of the 2nd
edition, I'm told):

FFFF,0000,0000"It may be said that Truth is the
highest virtue, but we have found that

living truthfully is higher still."

Ouch! Could they be more serious (hypocritical)?

I looked around in Raw Eating to see which sentence of Hovanssian's
they might have lifted for this gem, but haven't come across it yet.
Perhaps this sentence is an original for the Milli Vanelli trio. I'm
not sure which would be funnier: if it was actually penned by our
favorite plagiarists or if it was plagiarized.

I'm also wondering why it took all three of these fellows to "write"
their book.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Kirt

PS-- Permission granted to anyone to repost this anywhere you'd care
to. Oprah would love this stuff I'm sure...or is the cattlemen who
would love it--I forget ;)

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Let me just print what I found

But first let me say that the following is from another forum wherby a comparison was done and I have to say from intitial comparison it looks rather condemning for the trio. If this news continues to grow this will be a sticky kettle of...
hmmmmmm not fish (raw forum after all) umm a sticky jar of mashed blueberries. Any way take a look people. vegan_mark seems to be *ON* the mark! :-) I will look more and try to get a copy of the book so I can see it first hand. I have a call into a fellow respected curezone rawian, who has done a published book report on "Raw Eating." This will give us another important perspective. All I can say is wow!!!

Stay tuned.

NOTE: Plaigrerism and any theft of intellectual property are serious crimes. I see this taking place all the time (especially on the internet) where people want to appear as something they ar not. Insecurity dis ease.

____________________________________________________________
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/20056.html
From: Peter Brandt


Subject: More plagiarism from NFL

There has lately been circulating a rumour in the raw community that the
book "Nature's First Law" by Stephen Arlin, Fouad Dini & David Wolfe is
nothing but a plagiarized version of "Raw Food Eating" an out of print book
by the Iranian author Arshavir Ter Hovannessian written almost 40 years
ago. With a little help from my friends I got the chance to compare the two
books, and I can now conclude that the rumour is true. From glancing
through "Raw Eating" it seems that virtually each chapter has been lifted
with some re-wordings or added paragraphs dispersed in between and
transcribed into what is now "Nature's First Law."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, first paragraph:

"Raw vegetable food should be the only nourishment taken by man. The habit
of eating cooked food should be abandoned in this world once and for all.
This is the unerring demand of nature. The consumption of cooked food is
the most terrible barbarism in the history of mankind, a barbarism that no
one seems to be aware of and to which everybody falls an unconscious
victim. No matter how strange the idea may seem to some, it is the
absolute truth with which we cannot but acquiesce."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, first paragraph:

"Raw plant food should be the only food eaten by human beings. Humanity's
habit of eating cooked food must be abandoned in this world once and for
all. This is the absolute command of Nature. The consumption of cooked
food is the most unnatural savagery in the history of humankind. It is an
atrocity that no one seems to be aware of and to which everybody falls an
unconscious victim. What people eat deeply and radically affects the way
they think, feel, and behave. It drastically affects the entire life
process of planet Earth. No matter how strange the idea may seem to some,
it is the absolute truth that humanity must accept. To most, the truth is
stranger than fiction."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, second paragraph:

"This truth became evident to me when, after eighteen years of careful
study and investigation, I became convinced that the deaths of my ten-year
old son and fourteen-year old daughter were caused by unnatural nutrition.
The great number of medical examinations carried out in Iran, France, and
Germany and Switzerland in various attempts made to discover some specific
disease in their organisms and the subsequent administration of numerous
remedies had a considerable share, too, in bringing the tragedy to a head.
My children died by the gradual emaciation and wasting away of all their
organs caused by innatural feeding and poisonous medicines."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, second paragraph:

"This truth became evident to these three authors when, after years of
careful study and investigations, we became convinced that the deaths of
our family members, friends, and pets were caused by unnatural nutrition.
In turn, improper nourishment caused the premature degeneration of their
cellular structures. All the medical examinations carried out to diagnose
their specific diseases and all the drugs and medicines they were coerced
to ingest also had a considerable share in bringing the tragedy to a head.
Our family members, friends, and pets died of the gradual emaciation and
wasting away of their internal organs caused by unnatural feeding and
poisonous medicines."

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 7, third paragraph:

"I have been able to penetrate into the secrets of medical science and to
observe its good and bad aspects all the more clearly, because I have not
been inspired by the prospects of becoming a doctor or of making any
financial gains. My incentive has been in the first place to wish to do my
best for the recovery of the health of my beloved children, and later the
ardent desire to perpetuate their memory by being useful to humanity."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 1, third paragraph:

We have been able to penetrate into the secrets of medical science and to
observe its good and bad aspects. We have not been driven by the prospect
of becoming doctors or by making any financial gains by lying. First, our
incentive has been to do our best to help our families and friends achieve
greater levels of health. And later, it has been the ardent desire to
perpetuate the memory of those family members and friends who have passed
away by being useful to humanity.

"Raw Eating", chapter one, page 8, last paragraph:

"The results of eighteen years of painstaking study and labour have been
embodied in a work of two large volumes the first of which, a book of 568
pages, was published in Armenian in 1960."

"Nature's First Law", chapter one, page 3, last paragraph:

"The results of years of painstaking study and labor have been embodied in
this work. As far as possible, we have devoted our time to the study of a
great many branches of science and to the sources of these multifarious
categories of knowledge."

"Raw Eating", last chapter, page 117, 4th paragraph from the end:

"The man of today is very proud of his civilization, but he is far from
being really civilized. Real civilization should be measured not by mere
technical progress, but BY THE ENNOBLEMENT OF THE MIND AND SOUL OF THE
INDIVIDUAL, THE CONQUEST OF VICES AND ADDICTIONS, AND THE
EMANCIPATIONS OF
THE HUMAN INTELLECT FROM SUPERSTITIONS."

"Nature's First Law", last chapter, page 189, 4th paragraph from the end:

"People of today are proud of their civilization, but they are far from
being really civilized. Real civilization should be measured not by mere
technological progress, but by the ennoblement of the individual, the
conquest of vices and addictions, the emancipation of the human intellect
from superstitions, and the forwarding of a genetically pure population."

I have no intention of comparing all the chapters but at this point I would
be very surprised if much original thought can be found in "Nature's First
Law".

Best, Peter
nourish@ix.netcom.com


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 23:19:22 -1000


From: Nieft / Secola


Subject: Re: More plagiarism from NFL

I finally have my first edition of NFL and a copy of Raw Eating by A.T.
Hovanessian in hand, and, as promised earlier, would like to post a few
snippets from each for everyone's amusement. Peter certainly wasn't
kidding when he said the plagiarism appeared to be extensive. Indeed,
it is nearly paragraph for paragraph in many chapters. Since it is so
unbelievably easy to find the matching paragraphs (mostly they are in
order, blow by blow, but there has been some rearranging) which were so
blatently stolen, I may post a periodic reminder of NFL's absolute lack
of honesty, integrity, and originality. Until they threaten to sue
me--then I'll post them SEMI-periodically ;)


Find below nearly all of NFL's Chapter 5, as it is ripped off from Raw
Eating. Don't worry--an NFL "chapter" is only six paragraphs in this
case ;) And as a special bonus for plowing through that whoooooooole
chapter there awaits you my personal favorite (so far at least) in NFL
plagiarism at the end.

For those of you with Eudora, Hovanessian's words in blue; NFL's
"words" in red...

[THOSE ALL-CAPS WOULD BE LIL 'OL ME]

===

Hovanessian, paragraph one, page 13: Addiction to Cooked Food is the
Most Dangerous of All Vices

0000,0000,FFFFThe reader may naturally wonder why
none of the numerous scientists and professors sees these simply truths
and why nobody tells us that eating cooked foods is unnatural and
dangerous. The reason is that the whole of mankind are food addicts and
food-addiction has blinded everybody. Nobody realizes that
cooked-eating is a vice and that it is indeed the most terrible of all
vices.

NFL page 15, Chapter 5: FFFF,0000,0000Cooked
Food: A Physio-Chemical Addiction

"Addiction conquers science and takes it into its talons."
--Aterhov

[A DIRECT QUOTE FROM "ATERHOV"!!! AS IF THE REST ISN'T "QUOTED" AS
WELL.)

FFFF,0000,0000Many people naturally wonder why
none of the numerous "learned" scientists and philosophers understand
these simple Truths and why nobody has yet told humanity that eating
cooked food is unnatural and dangerous. The reason is that all of
humanity is addicted to cooked food and that addiction has blinded
everybody. Nobody realizes that cooked-food eating is a vice. It is, in
fact the most terrible vice of all..

===

Hovanessian, page 13, still the first paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFIt is not a craving after only one
kind of substance but the sum total of one's voracious longings for
thousands of substances (and what "marvellous", "desirable" substancs
at that!). Besides, short-sighted cooked-eaters see richness and
excellence in the multiplicity of the debasements to which foodstuffs
are subjected, whereas it is the very multiplicity of the dabasements
that gives rise to the multiplicity of harms, the true reflection of
which can be seen in the large variety of illnesses which prevail in
the world today.

NFL page 15 Chapter 5, second paragraph of Chapter 5:

FFFF,0000,0000Cooked-food addiction encompasses
not just a craving for one type of substance, but hundreds, even
thousands, of substances. On top of this, short-sighted cooked-eaters
see richness and excellence in the mutiplicity of debased foodstuffs.
It is this very multiplicity of debasements that gives rise to a
multiplicity of harms. A true reflection of this can be seen in the
large variety of illnesses that prevail in the world today--especially
in the "rich, developed" world. (NICE TOUCH, EH? SINCE IRAN WAS
NEITHER]

===

Hovanessian, page 13, second paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFMan becomes addicted to these
substances that contain poisons such, as tea, coffee, tobacco, alcohol,
opium, cocaine, morphine, etc. The strong craving for these substances
is stimulated by corresponding poisons collected in the human organism.
Cooked foods produce a large variety of poisons which, in the course of
time, are stored in different parts of the organism, such as on the
walls of veins and capillaries, between the joints, in the center of
fat cells and elsewhere.

NFL page 15-16, 3rd and 4th paragraph of chapter 5:

FFFF,0000,0000Human beings become addicted to
substances that contain poisons, such as tea, coffee, cooked marijuana,
cooked tobacco, alcohol, cocaine, heroin, etc. Addictions promote and
defend themselves. [DOES THAT MAKE NFL AN ADDICTION, I WONDER
;) AND IS RAW MARIJUANA AND RAW CHEWBACCO OK BY NFL THEN? ;)]

FFFF,0000,0000 The strong craving for these
substances is stimulated by corresponding poisons collected in the
human organism. Cooked foods contain a large variety of poisons which,
in the course of time, are stored in different parts of the body. They
are deposited on the walls of veins and capillaries, between the
joints, in the center of fat cells, and elsewhere.

===

Hovanessian, page 13, still the second paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFJust as the craving of a drug
addict for heroin does not arise from the normal physiological needs of
his body, so the desire of a cooked-food eater for cooked food, his
feeling of hunger, is not the normal demand of his organism; rather it
is the demand of his addiction. It is the expression of impulses that
are stimulted by the poisons collected in the human organism; it is the
demand of the diseases nestled in the body, the call of man's worst
enemy.

NFL, page 16, paragraph 5 of chapter 15:

FFFF,0000,0000The crack addict's craving for rock
cocaine does not arise from the normal physiological needs of the
organism; it is created by a physio-chemical addiction. Similarly, the
desire for cooked food, is not a physiological need, but a
physio-chemical addiction. It is the expression of impulses that are
stimulted by the poisons and malformed cells thriving in the organism.
It is the demand of the diseases nestled in the body, the call of
humanity's worst enemy. [LEST ANYONE CLAIM THEY ARE SEXIST, EH?
;)]

===

Hovanessian, page 13, third and final paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFThat terrible vice is introduced
into the body of every human being by his own parents right from the
cradle. That is why the moment the baby begins to take notice and start
talking, food-addiction has already secured a firm hold on him and from
that moment to the very end of his life he regards cookd food as his
normal diet and his strong craving for it as his physiological demand;
it is this that he mistakes for real hunger.

NFL, 16, sixth and final paragraph (except for the "cooked food is
poison" tag ;)):

FFFF,0000,0000That terrible vice is introduced
into the body of every human being by his or her own mother when still
an embryo via the umbilical cord and placenta. Once the child is born
the parents unwittingly continue this insane process. Even before the
child has learned to talk, cooked-food addiction has already secured a
physio-chemical hold on the organism. From that moment to the end of
s/he regards cooked food as normal and natural and the craving for it
s/he mistakes for hunger.

=====

[HERE IS A BONUS PARAGRAPH FOR READING THIS FAR]

Hovanessian, page 108, third full paragraph:

0000,0000,FFFFPerhaps some of my readers may not
like my tone of writing. In their opinion my expressions should
preferably be more scientific (adorned with a Latin terminology
unintelligible to most people), more conciliatory (complaisant), more
serious (hypocritical), more compromising (unscrupulous), more
courteous (lying), and more tactful (cowardly). But I prefer to be
decisive, sincere and bold. And that is how I shall be, even if I find
the whole world against me. I am confident that I shall be supported by
all sensible people and vindicated by future generations.

NFL, page 178-9

FFFF,0000,0000Perhaps some people do not like our
tone of writing. In their opinion our expressions should preferably be
more scientific (adorned with Greek and Latin terminology
unintelligible to most people), more conciliatory (milquetoast), more
serious (hypocritical), more compromising (unscrupulous), more
courteous (filled with lies), and more tactful (cowardly). We are
driven by forces seeded in our blood. We are decisive and bold. We are
accurate and succinct. We hold nothing back and get right to the point.
That is how we shall be, even if we find the whole world against us. We
are confident that we shall be supported by all sensible people and
vindicated by future generations.

====

[ONCE AGAIN, MORE "SUCCINCTLY" IN CASE YOU MISSED IT THE FIRST
TIME:]

====

Hovanessian, page 108, third full paragraph, third sentence:

0000,0000,FFFFBut I prefer to be decisive,
sincere and bold.

NFL, page 179, second full sentence:

FFFF,0000,0000We are decisive and bold.

====

They are laughing stocks is more like it. A final chesnut before I call
it a night:

NFL, from page 173 in the first edition (and from p.171 of the 2nd
edition, I'm told):

FFFF,0000,0000"It may be said that Truth is the
highest virtue, but we have found that

living truthfully is higher still."

Ouch! Could they be more serious (hypocritical)?

I looked around in Raw Eating to see which sentence of Hovanssian's
they might have lifted for this gem, but haven't come across it yet.
Perhaps this sentence is an original for the Milli Vanelli trio. I'm
not sure which would be funnier: if it was actually penned by our
favorite plagiarists or if it was plagiarized.

I'm also wondering why it took all three of these fellows to "write"
their book.

Any ideas?

Cheers,

Kirt

PS-- Permission granted to anyone to repost this anywhere you'd care
to. Oprah would love this stuff I'm sure...or is the cattlemen who
would love it--I forget ;)
 

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