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Thank you for your input. I am not going to read any more books about Christianity. I feel that is a total waste of time, as Christianity has many conflicts that cannot be resolved no matter how much the scholars try.

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I take this position because IMHO, Christianity is completely inconsistent and morally bankrupt. If Christians keep having to apologize for other Christians' behavior, then there is a problem with their religion, NOT with their behavior.

You never hear about Buddhists or atheists or Hindus, for example, forcibly converting and killing people.

As I said, the God of the OT and NT is hateful and judgmental. So why should I expect Christians to be loving and kind, when THEIR GOD approves of killing people for the most trivial of reasons? You cannot say they are not true Christians. They are indeed true Christians, and they are following the precepts of their Bible. Their god says that the father should kill the son who offends him. Their Messiah, Jesus, says that his job is to tear families apart. He's certainly done that well.

Their God says that you have free will. You have the freedom to worship God but if you don't, then you are gonna fry in Hell. That is NOT free will. That is duress, legally speaking.

Their God says that if you blaspheme the holy spirit (whatever that means???) you are going to hell, and it's unforgivable. Wonderful. An eternal and certain punishment for a finite human life. What a sadistic psychopathic God. I want nuthin' to do with him, thank you.



Christianity that is practiced now was promoted by the followers of Paul who was a woman hater and had some serious psychological problems. The growth of Christianity from being a Jewish cult was a political decision, as were the decisions as to which books of the Bible were canonical at the council of Nicea. The church leaders wanted to control people and put down women completely because of their society. They also rejected the mother goddess and reincarnation which were tenets of Gnosticism.

I think this is just intellectual dithering and I'm not gonna bother to try to understand Christianity because it does not make any sense. If God wants to talk to me, he can show up in my face and tell me what's going on instead of playing a cosmic peek a boo game with me. If you don't like that, that's too bad. I don't know "what God wants" from me, and he ain't said anything to me. We are all muddling along and doing the best we can. Society progresses as we find out more about how people operate, and the natural processes of our bodies, our minds and nature.

Following the outdated rules of a primitive, nomadic society who believed in blood sacrifices to appease God just grosses me out. And that includes Jesus as a sacrifice. I would hope that most of humanity has gotten past that way of thinking.

One of the posters here said that God speaks to them as their gut feelings. I had gut feelings that told me to GET AWAY FROM THESE CHURCH PEOPLE AND MINISTERS AS FAST AS POSSIBLE; THEY ARE EVIL. I don't think my gut feelings were God, they were self preservation, since I don't believe in a God that speaks to me. PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME TO "TRY HARDER" TO COMMUNICATE WITH GOD. I DID THAT ALREADY! GRRR!! YOU ARE INSULTING MY EFFORTS.

I am never going to set foot in a Christian Church again, either. The only church I feel comfortable in is the Unitarian-Universalist church which is not Christian. It is atheist/agnostic/secular humanist, or whatever you want it to be.

I have been in many different houses of worship: Christian, jewish, Hindu and Buddhist, and I have been treated with utmost respect EXCEPT in certain Christian churches who are into fundamnetalism and hellfire and brimstone. They scare people so they can control them and take their money. It's a mechanism of social control, pure and simple. And that is immoral.

I will keep studying the Four Noble Truths of Buddhism (Sepcifically I like Mahayana which is Chinese)

and the Eight Precepts of :

Right Understanding,
Right thought,
Right action,
Right speech,
Right action,
Right livelihood,
Right effort,
Right mindfulness, and
Right concentration.

There are further explanations of this, but it's much easier to understand and follow than the Abrahamic religions. Further more, the more I study Buddhism, the deeper it gets. Buddhism is both simple and deep at the same time. It goes much further than "Thou shalt" and "Thou shalt not". I see no reason why people can't find their own morality from their own judgment and experience. God is not needed for morality.

"What are morals to Sons of God?" --Frederich Nietschze

 

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