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Date:   11/20/2004 2:22:01 PM ( 21 y ago)
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We all see what we want to see.

The students will one day be the teachers,
The teachers will one day be the students, or at least learn so much from the students

The child will one day be the parent
The parent will become childish or become like a child

The ignorant will become knowledgable
The wise will turn then ignorant

Wherever you turn, you will find what you choose to find that suits you..............until.....................you die-
no one knows then what they will find.
Is death certain?
of course.
But not now right?
Maybe if we dont think about it- it wont ever come.
Good try. Wont work though-
So if we had no control on how we ourselves got here, and we have no knowledge of when we oursleves will expire, then someone else is in control. If we are in control then we could stop our bodies from aging, stop our hair from greying, stop the sun from rising.
We cant stop our soul once its in the Angel of Death's grasp, and no matter how hard we try, we cannot raise the truly dead.
Man was made from a drop of despised fluid, and when given power is an open enemy to the Maker!
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By Jo Wilding
British Activist – Iraq
10/05/2004


Iraqi men waiting outside the Abu Ghraib prison
May 6th, 2004

The publication of the prisoner abuse photos has rightly caused outrage, but it’s not new and there are many other abuses routinely going on in the prison system. The thing about prison is that you’re locked away. No one can see you unless they’re let in or you’re let out. Suddenly – and I am relieved that the world knows about it at last – the abuse of prisoners in Iraq has become partly visible. The photos made news in a way that countless Iraqi people’s stories did not.




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The Christian Peacemaker Team (CPT) has been taking statements and testimonies from released detainees and their relatives for months (www.cpt.org), as has an awesome Italian woman called Paola Gasparoli, and there are several Iraqi human rights organizations working on individual cases. And yes, they do also work on cases relating to the old government. The pictures which have been published cause outrage, and rightly so, but they are the tip of the iceberg.





Women are often detained because their husbands are wanted. There have been many reports of them being kept naked. Widespread rape has been documented.

It is known that many women have been detained, including over a dozen bank clerks, to force them to pay for the discrepancy between the genuine currency handed in and that given out in the January changeover, although they were told to pay out new currency for all notes handed in, even suspect ones, because there was no way of verifying which were real. However, to be imprisoned is deeply shameful for a woman, mainly because it is assumed that she will have been raped, so most are unwilling to talk about what happened, even confidentially, and as a result, there is very little information about women detainees.

One prisoner told CPT about hearing rumors of a mass grave under the prison. He said that he and fellow prisoners dug under their tent and found recently dead bodies a few feet down. There were stories, independently back up by various former detainees, of demonstrations against conditions in the camp being brutally suppressed by soldiers, and another man reported one incident where the prisoners were shouting “Freedom” and soldiers opened fire, killing four men and injuring three.


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Do you really need a guideline to know you’re not meant to beat, kick and sexually abuse a prisoner?


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There are reports in the cases known to me, to CPT and to the local human rights organizations of the following:

1. Extrajudicial executions during a raid, which turned out to be on the wrong house.
2. Violent arrests of children from their school.
3. A prisoner having his toenails pried off by guards.
4. Prisoners being forced to swallow liquid.
5. Psychological torture: being left blindfolded in an open-air passage with a tank driving towards them, so they thought they would be run over and killed.
6. A minor reported having his buttocks held apart by soldiers who were kicking his anus.

The following appear routinely throughout the statements of detainees and their families:

* Beating and kicking of prisoners and of residents during house raids;

* Soldiers and Guards treading on backs and heads.

* Guns being pointed at children or held to their heads during raids.

* Denial of water.

* Denial of food, or very low quantities and poor quality of food, sometimes including pork, which is forbidden for Muslims.

* Denial of blankets, shade or air conditioning.

* Excessive chemicals being added to water so it is dangerous to drink.

* Denial of washing and toilet facilities, both within the prison camps and during long road transfers.

* Hands being tied behind the back for prolonged periods, including when this prevents the prisoners from drinking water.

* Hands being tied so tightly that the arms swell.

* Denial of medical attention or being taken to a military ‘doctor’ who kicks and otherwise abuses, or else ignores and refuses to examine the prisoner.

* Overcrowding of tents so that there is not enough room to lie down to sleep.

* Prisoners being forced to kneel or squat all day and to remain in the sun all day in temperatures of up to 120 degrees F.

* Detention of minors.

* Individuals being kept for their entire detention in only underwear or nightwear,sometimes suffering severe sunburn as a result, having been refused the chance to get dressed when arrested at night.

* Severe verbal abuse.

* Theft of money and jewellery by US soldiers during the raid.

* Failure to return documentation, IDs, passports and other personal property that was with the prisoner when detained.

* Use of Kuwaiti military as translators and prison guards, who are apparently particularly aggressive with Iraqi detainees, believing that they are taking revenge for the 1990 invasion of Kuwait .

Additionally, there is no provision for detainees to be given access to legal advice or representation. From the tome of arrest, it can take weeks even to be processed. There is limited provision for family visits and relatives have to wait at prison gates with the tag number of the prisoner. Most are told to return in several weeks or months.


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One prisoner told CPT about hearing rumors of a mass grave under the prison.


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It may be impossible for the family to find out the tag number, because names are transliterated into English and stored in a computer. There is no standardized transliteration system for Arabic into English, and a tiny difference in the spelling of a name could make it impossible to trace the prisoner, leaving the family uncertain which jail the person is in or even whether he is still alive and lost in the system somewhere.


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The detentions often mean the loss of the family’s only earner and the only driver.


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There is a huge amount of evidence that US forces are acting on false information and “malicious tips”, which they do not bother to investigate or verify before carrying out raids and arrests. Accusations include harboring wanted members of the old regime (who had in fact already been arrested), being a member of the Fedayeen, or trafficking weapons. One man, who had been repeatedly tortured by the Baathists, was jailed for being a Baathist!

The fact that the “information” is false is supported by the reality that so many are released without any charges or evidence being brought against them. Of 63 former or current detainees interviewed by CPT members, not one was convicted of anything. Unfortunately, because the review board meets so irregularly, it can take many months before the release without charge is effected.

Mass arrests also occur, with soldiers seizing every man in a given area after an incident that may have only involved one or two individuals, or during a raid. In some cases, the raid has been on the wrong house and the soldiers have admitted the mistake, but nonetheless arrested the young men in the house.

The detentions often mean the loss of the family’s only earner and the only driver, so that children can’t get to school, and in some cases loss of the family home if they can’t pay the rent. There are indications that some families have managed to retrieve individuals from the prisons by way of bribes to people working with the coalition forces. Others say they would gladly pay if they could find someone reliable to give money to. Depression is ubiquitous among the prisoners and some families report severe behavioral changes following release.

This information relates to US prisons. I’m sorry that I haven’t got any for the British troops in the south. There are one or two local human rights groups down there, but fewer international activists and fewer journalists. The pressure needs to be kept up so the detainees don’t just disappear again. The governments involved have to be pressed for more information and to take responsibility for, and control of, their troops.

Lawyers acting for the US soldiers charged are claiming that it was a system wide problem and their clients are not responsible because they weren’t given clear guidelines. Do you really need a guideline to know you’re not meant to beat, kick and sexually abuse a prisoner? Nevertheless, their individual guilt shouldn’t be used to absolve those higher up the system.

The commanders are responsible, right to the top of the military, right to the political leadership, the ministers and secretaries of state, whose job it was to provide clear rules, supervision, and protection, to know what was going on and to get rid of the individuals responsible. They won’t take that responsibility of their own accord; it’s left to us to persuade them.

Jo Wilding is an Iraq-based British human rights campaigner, writer and trainee lawyer from Bristol , UK . Twenty-nine-year old Wilding first came to Iraq in August 2001 with Voices in the Wilderness. She returned to Iraq as an independent observer in February 2003, and stayed for the month before the war and the first 11 days of the bombing as a human shield, before being expelled by the Iraqi foreign ministry as part of a purge of independent foreigners.
Currently inside Iraq, Wilding is taking part in Circus 2 Iraq, “a small group of circus performers - fools, clowns, jugglers, stilt walkers and magicians – set up to… perform and give circus skills workshops to children [in Iraq] traumatized by sanctions, war and its aftermath.”
Her writings about Iraq and ordinary Iraqis were published in The Guardian, The New Zealand Herald, Counterpunch, Australian radio, and in Japan, Korea and Pakistan.


 

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