Date:   1/4/2005 10:23:54 PM ( 19 y ago)
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You still have not answered the first question in my post, " Who said there isn't any chlorine bleach in drinking water in Africa?"

But instead you changed the subject to asking why South Africa doesn't appear to have chlorinated drinking water. Why should I answer this when you haven't answered the first question? You are making the assumption be proven by someone else, when you should prove it since you believe it. You are also assuming what you have to prove.

If you want to show there are more personal insults in my prior post, don't you have to show evidence of the first one and why you think so.

And you never explained how the sentence you quoted was an insult. I saw it as an accurate description of how you post.
You don't provide much evidence for what you say. For example, how do you know the biggest users of chlorine are in the developed world? I don't recognize this as being readily known by most people. Maybe it is. But you never showed any data on this. What countries would you include in your definition of the developed world? What are the many uses of chlorine for each country and what percentage goes to water? Just the amount of chlorine used in not definitive. In your posts you argue for something to be true because it is widely held to be true (based on the last time you read about it I would say). I pointed out in one post (01/04/2005-9:36AM) you needed to widen the scope of your reading on this subject. In the next post, you rejected that and asked more questions that sounded like you had a picture of what Africa was possibly sometime around 1900. If you are going to reject people's assertions based on cliches and truisms in society that aren't true, then your mind has been wrongly conditioned on this subject. Don't forget one of the definitions of debate is to argue in detail and not just repeat generalizations.

Did you do a search on the internet on "polluted water Africa?"
There is a variety of information.

What do people do who don't have any municipal drinking water like your South Africa example? Is no chlorinated-drinking-water the only option? If you know of a non chlorinated drinking source in South Africa, why didn't you list it? In a debate you provide detail for your side of things. Can they get water from tanks like in the Eastern Highlands and does this water come from a nearby river? Chlorine is not the only contaminant in water that causes damage and weakens the immune system and prepares the body for developing aids. You have to keep several variables in your mind that develop/occur at different speeds when discussing what sets off aids.

A lot of pages on the problem of scarce water in Africa talk about cholera, when certain contaminants get in drinking water. It is explained that the best way of preventing cholera is to have clean, treated water and effective sanitation to help prevent re-infecting water sources by human waste and for people to practice good hygiene. When people get kicked out of homes for not paying the water bill in South Africa where would they go for drinking and eliminating?

The usual and customary way to treat water for whatever conditions it carries is to add chlorine. Regardless of whether this is effective or not.

You quote the parts of Dr. H. Clark's theory on aids you want to make fun of in what you call debate. In whatever you understood about her theory you did not see that Chlorine may be what sets it off, but all the other internal factors have to be there already (or develop there at the same time). Dr. Clark does not say it's a quick step from Chlorine to aids--you do. Instead she asserts it is complex.





 

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