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Re: Orgone generator by Ohfor07 ..... Orgone Energy Support Forum

Date:   3/14/2006 2:11:13 PM ( 18 y ago)
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From my perspective, no, I am not all that impressed with Welz. I'm not necessarily a rabid, lock, stock and barrel Croft supporter either, I have the experience of his efforts in booting me from some of the forums he oversees to back this up. Despite my differences and disagreements though, I still respect Croft for his collective efforts. At least with him it I can see significant effort on his part to show the regular people of the masses a way - via the 50-cent home-made Tower Buster, in attaining the bit of intestinal fortitude required to actually consider standing up against the entrenched establishment. I say this after two years of trying to learn about orgone and orgonite, having cast thouasands of my own self-made TBs based on his instructions, despite which I have yet to observe or have clear cut confirmations that orgone/TBs do much in the way of all the various things that Croft, Welz and any of their followers and adherents claim. If Welz is making similar efforts to empower the little guy/gal, I apologize for having failed to notice but to the best of my knowledge Welz is synonomous with the establishment, concerned only with providing a product that may help the little guy or gal as a means to his personal gain.

From my perspective, I'm willing to assume for sake of argument that the true situation surrounding orgone/orgonite is as FF described; it does not change my perspective. It's easy to judge Reich's work and say that he never did this or that, never discovered this or that, never even went there, so to speak. The problem I have with this is that we the little people do not have a full picture of Reich from which to judge. Most of what we have to go one are those parts of him that the establishement, either by choice or omission, failed to erase as though they never existed. We'll never know the full extent of what he did and discovered, will never know how much farther he would have gone or achieved, thanks largely to the commercial interests of the establishment and the fraudulent authorities within them that Reich's energy / life-force / orgone discoveries threatened (AMA chief among them). To the detriment of you, me and society as a whole, it was the AMA and their various bootlickers that lead the charge to imprison and destroy Reich. Who's to say what nuggets of truth would have been revealed had he not been so derailed?; what nuggets to have been found in all of the research work, papers and books systematically burned and destroyed? For the record, in the course of lynching Reich, the same establishment gang legally decreed "orgone does not exist". I only know of Reich as a result of having learned about Croft and the dedication to Reich's memory he's made. If Welz has made similar dedication, I've failed to notice this.

In any case, yes, Croft seems to be doing fairly well commercially. The main orgone product I'm aware of that he's had direct commercial benefit from is his version of the Zapper, the same which Croft has made it fairly easy for others to copy or make on their own if so inclined. There is the passive stuff he sells, like his wife's Pendant, and Pyramid, but he widely and routinely pubishes the instructions for the DIYer to make the Zapper, the Succor Punch, the TB, the Pyramid, the HHG, etc. I've not noticed Welz making similar selfless efforts. It is interesting that Welz has managed to patent a product that involves something legally declared "does not exist" by the establishment of the 40's era. I'm not condoning the theft of invention, but people/organizations stealing ideas from the orignator is part of the corrupt capitalist corporate foundation that has made the system of the united States go round for centuries. During the last 50 years alone, the government and all it's partners have been busy legalizing, through it's institutions and legislation, the systematical theft of the little guys property - money, house/home, children, intelligence, personal information, intellectual rights, through laws in banking, taxation, education, commerce and homeland security, for which the little guy, en masse, seems all to willing to be compliant without much in the way of legitimate and genuine complaint or protest, despite which Croft makes routine and repeated efforts to notify the little guy "hey, you need to wake up to this!". Where is Welz in all of this? Being extremely liberal in this case, at worst Croft is not alone but he does pale in comparisson side by side with countelss other and more prominent role models of commerce and big business we have to look up to. If people have a problem with Croft's commercial success, they darn well ought to have a similar but monumentally larger problem with the likes of this country's greatest commercial giants like Morgan, Rockefeller et. al, and all those in league in business and government who support, aid and ride the coat tails of this kind of profitability.







 

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