Re: When Everyone Feels God's Presence But You... by trapper/kcmo ..... Christianity Debate
Date: 11/10/2017 2:30:54 PM ( 8 y ago)
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John 1:13
which were born,
not of blood,
nor of the will of the flesh,
nor of the will of man,
but of God.
in other words, your feelings dont mean shit.
do you know where your feelings come from? the flesh is stimulated in some way creating a neurological response and transported elctrochemically throughout the body while the brain makes sense of it - is it good? is it bad? do i like it? do i not? is it dangerous? is it safe?
all products of the flesh.
Romans 7:18
For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
yet you and your cohorts expect me to pretend for you so you can experience pleasantries instead of stark truth. well, f*** that.
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
the spirit doesnt lie. you say the spirit doesnt say "f***". well, all language comes from god (read your bible), so spirit created f***. if the word fits, im using it and to hell with what anyone thinks. you can hallcinate that you smell sulhpur all you want. its your upper lip reeking from the lies it tells.
Romans 8:8
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
solid gold. bingo! none of your emotions, none of the spine tingling from your songs, none of that is spirit. it is flesh. so what if you feel good? is it really good? its not god. the bible says the flesh is continually wicked.
Romans 8:13
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
ever read that verse? how much of your flesh have you cut off? refreshed was oh so wrong about cutting off parts of the body that offend. it shows she isnt seriouds enough. and most of the rest of you arent serious at all.
Romans 9:8
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
theres your jewish question. seed must fall to the earth and die in order to produce.
1 Corinthians 1:29
that no flesh should glory in his presence.
1 Corinthians 15:50
Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
2 Corinthians 7:1
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
2 Corinthians 10:3
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
Galatians 1:16
to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
see, the last thing a new convert should consider is listening to another man. what a fools game.
Galatians 3:3
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
hey, paul! fools still abound in this enlightened age! who knew????
Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
theres a good. in three sentences or less, tell how to walk in the spirit. i dare you.
Galatians 5:17
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.
so if you keep chasing after all these feelgood moments youll never make any progress in the spirit. and you will die in your sins.
Galatians 5:18-20Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these;
Adultery,
fornication,
uncleanness,
lasciviousness, 20
idolatry,
witchcraft,
hatred,
variance,
emulations,
wrath,
strife,
seditions,
heresies, 21
envyings,
murders,
drunkenness,
revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that
they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
look that list over hard. see how the flesh invites, propagates and intensifies these emotions into deeds. i have seen most of these come from you folks. so much for mortifying the deeds of the flesh.
continuing in galations 5
22 But the
fruit of the Spirit is
love,
joy,
peace,
longsuffering,
gentleness,
goodness,
faith, 23
meekness,
temperance:
against such there is no law. 24
none of these have a fleshly feeling behind them. they are CONTRARY to the flesh. they dont make you feel anything. they must be done most times agaisnt the feelings the flesh is providing. its easy to love your friends. it feels good to do good things for them because they reciprocate and make you feel good. but loving enemies? not so feel good, eh?
And
they that are Christ’s
its one of the ways you can tell who is christ's
have crucified the flesh
with the
affections
and
lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. 26 Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
thats all you people ever do is provoke and envy. and be vain. and in your psychosis you think its me because i have told you the truth. lolololololololololololololol
Galatians 6:8
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
see, if you repent and take a different approach to things you can do that.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
the fight isnt with the flesh. the flesh takes care of itself. walk in the spirit.
Colossians 2:18
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
see. angels. screw that noise, too. why would anyone bother with angels of any kind? they just puff up the flesh. humble yourself and repent.
Hebrews 2:14
Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
1 Peter 1:23-25Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: 25 but the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
is the word in you?
1 Peter 4:1
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
peter knew. jesus gave him the keys to the kingdom. one of the keys is suffering in the flesh. so, contrary to feeling good and singing songs and having a joyous worship service in a world of total depravity and perversion, youre suppose to suffer along with it instead. do you seek it? are you supposed to be a masochist? heaven forbid. but dont call good times in the flesh "of god", for heavens sake. and dont call hard times of suffering works of the devil. so what if they are? god made the devil. are you opposed to god? well, yes you are by the backwards way you obviously see things. completely backwards. sinning and multiplying unto yourselves.
2 Peter 2:10
but chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
lets straighten out another foul error that christians uphold to this day, that government is good. bullshit. this government we have IS the devil, is the liar, is the satan, is the death dealer. its the one we are not supposed to conform to. just because the word written in greek 2000 years ago and translated into english 400 years ago is government does not mean its speaking of our government. you CALIM (but disasterously fail) to follow jesus christ, a capital criminal who was executed as such. to quote that great sage, hank hill, "what the hell is wrong with your mind??????"
you are despising government.
you are self willed
you are presumptuous.
you are walking in the lusts of your flesh and uncleanness.
how?
by despising the government of christ.
by doing your own will instead of his.
by presuming your flesh knows best and will make a good god.
by glorifying your uncleanness and holding it up as some kind of totem of godliness.
thats how.
2 Peter 2:18
For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
pick a post, any post of loquat or vektek - perfect examples of such.
1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
if anyone is at all interested in god, they should engrave this on their foreheads immediately.
Jude 1:8
Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
Revelation 17:16
And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
NO ONE is interested in what revelations says. NO ONE
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