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Re: refreshed by trapper/kcmo ..... Christianity Debate

Date:   6/9/2017 9:11:41 PM ( 7 y ago)
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ones impulse is to continue with this hodge narrative but the errors pile up too fast to really leave much behind.

so since there is no serpent walking aaround NOT in their belly, lets see if some other animal might not fit. i can imagine how a snake might make eve aware of her nakedness as i saw a thai girl do a demonstration of that in a strip club in biloxi mississippi one time back in my air force tech school days. but even that snake was already using its belly to get around. never saw one walk around otherwise.

so as soon as you run out of physical possibilities then you enter the territory of metaphor, parables, typs and shadows. the bible is that on every elvel because it is true on every level. gods word guides to truth. men dont always use it that way.

then there is the matter of speaking. that snake in biloxi would have had a hard time saying anything to that girl, burried in his work as he was. so we need more clues, like hodge says, from the bible. the serpent is also satan.

hodge claims the sotry of job is some kind of fairy tale so who can trust this guy? i like jesus. jesus IS the word. the whole word. and nothing but the world. how does he use the word?

Matthew 10:16
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

Matthew 23:33
Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

John 3:14
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

he likens himself and others to serpents. so serpents are men. ill take jesus over hodge any day of the week.

Matthew 4:10
Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

Matthew 16:23
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

Mark 4:15
And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.

Luke 22:31
And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:

John 13:27
And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.

well, there you have. not a snake among them. just men. serpents, yes. vipers, yes. men, yes.

so what do i think happened in the garden? a man. and what did that man do to get eve to eat from the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so that she suddenly knew she was naked?

another good place to stop and have a little patience. take a few minutes. but answer me or, well, you dont even know the god you claim to be saving you. you dont even seem to know what he is supposed to be saving you from. instead you have had magic spells cast upon you.

but dont worry your little heads about that right now. especially you, kumquat. try to focus and answer the question.
 

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