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Ideas on the Subject (correct them if required) by vairagi ..... Colloidal Silver Forum

Date:   9/10/2016 2:26:13 PM ( 8 y ago)
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One thing is that the proteins having receptor sites for the metal AG+ ions mainly carry them thru our system not particularly into any cell structure (thats another topic) and they only need proximity to gram negative organisms to cause the antipathogenic activity to commence. In considering  gram positve organisms (like MRSA) affects (where membrane distruction wouldnt be  activated), the mechanism appears to be by entering the organism and disrupting it's internal functioning, clearly infered from the Czech study published in the prestigious Journal of Physical Chemistry B in 2006, and  often refered to in CS literature,  “…silver particles with a narrow size distribution with an average size of 25 nm, which showed high antimicrobial and bactericidal activity against Gram-positive and Gram-negative bacteria, including highly multi-resistant strains such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA). The study further demonstrated that very low concentrations of silver could be utilized to destroy MRSA, as long as the silver particles were very small, averaging 25 nm.”  And again referencing that the smaller the AG+ atomic particle groupings, the more effective the pathogenic activity on this particular types of organisms.

Our cells uses of the noble metals in ionic form is also specific and common to certain cells/organs.

As previously mentioned these ion receiving structures (metalloproteins) are a normal(very common) part of our body and specificly our nutrition system serving the needs of our bodies by transporting the Pos or Neg (Cation or Anion) charged (any element) atoms thru our systems for use as required.

Toxic heavy metal particles, nutritious and antipathogenic noble metal particles and regularly considered minerals in ionic states(cause our body systems are designed to use strictly ion forms not "inorganic" or uncharged forms (tho everything is charged but lets not get into that), and (atomic) particles of regular dietary foods which we might not consider as being either negatively or positivily charged (ions) but they are.(the reason why we express out a large % of the non ionic minerals we ingest as supplements, is that we are relying on our digestive system to process them into ionic states(which is adequate but not seriously efficient). Ideally we are recieving the mineral ions we require from our food. 

And this is why the whole unstable ion, salt interface is either a faulty unresearched extrapolation or an attempt to discount easily made Silver Water so only the HVDC product or LVDC CS reduced back to elemental AG is considered valuable. It has unwittingly been picked up and believed by some LVDC makers, who in error advise converting the AG+ back to AG, against all research and biological knowledge.

(so I think it stems from one source's output multiplying and tainting the vernacular literature in numerous web sites and influencing even well meaning CS generator sellers to think ideas not evidenced, ie,

"True Colloidal" Silver (made up name) and Ionic Colloidal Silver, are two different things.  

That only metallic/elemental AG will work for internal use, claiming against all research literature that ionic silver, AG+, is only good for topical use. (weve had this discussion I know but since Mr C is bringing it up)

As mentioned if we are to believe (as some CS web sites claim as fact, but no science research shows) that the CS's activating principle(ion exchange) found by research scientists to be anion activity against gram positive pathogen's membranes and their internal systems, is seriously compromised by our internal systems, then by that fraudulent thinking, our entire nutritive supply system is equally endangered, because many of our bodies required nutritive items are and or become ions so as to be used properly and snyc up with receptor sites on proteins just as ions of AG do. 

Call them unstable if you will, call them in danger if you will, of salt, or HCL, but ions of all sorts(non toxic, toxic and neutral, foods minerals ect) exist for lengths of time in many environments till utilized for their specific qualities.
Our extra and intercellular fluids are full of ions unimpaired by an environmentally activated change of polarity using the previously mentioned tecnique(this is exactingly similar to how some pathogens hide from our immune detecting ability in our bodies also). Sea water also is a good example of salt and water with lots of unchanging ions.

on another point.

A teaspoon of 10ppm CS has more silver atoms than our body has cells, so the smaller the atomic element AG+ particles, the more antibiotic ability. Agglomeration(LVDC but using too high of an amperage or no movement) and flocculation(HVDC) are the main divisive results of making CS. (but with either traits the product can still work, just not as well as nano or less sized AG+ CS, according to present research).

Stirring/movement avoids particle grouping and especially if generated with bubbling, (which is only considered negative by the same, as mentioned, propagandized unscientific messaging), since it not only creates nascent oxygen(as another available oxidiser) but by that it, (O), prevents the potentially nano or less than nano sized atom groups in LVDC CS atom particles from grouping into 20nm to 100 nm or larger particles.


 

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