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OK. Now because you know that Trump is PRO-VACCINE and says children need to be vaccinated YET you can't muster up the courage to admit you've been had, you try the time honored tradition of distraction. That's called a Hail Mary.

First of all this dialogue was EXCLUSIVELY about Donald Trump----not Clinton, Cruz, Saunders or any other candidate. Just Trump. I have not stated I support anyone so this is not a comparative analysis of the political landscape. As I said the conversation is about TRUMP and what he has clearly stated. You continue to politicize the vaccine issues and as I stated before the children deserve better than this sort of nonsense. A vaccine damaged child is not a Democratic, Republican or whatever-their illness superseded all labels except vaccine damaged. Shame on you for your continual labeling and alluding people who are non-republican don't care about this issue. Who died and left you God?

You posted:
"Trump expresses concern about vaccine safety.
He calls for more studies."

Again, so what? What does that mean? President Obama stated he would look into the vaccine issue but if you know how the government works, which you clearly DO NOT, what a person says they are going to do and what they can actually do within their specific constitutional duties are night and day. You really need to go back to school and read up on Presidential Powers.

So again, So What--Trump says studies. What's his plan? You did not provide a link to his policy health plan? How is he going to go about having vaccines studies? Just the fact he has embraced Ben Carson, who is a big vaccine supporter, into his campaign sends a very powerful message. Messaging is the way campaigns work and Trump has sent extremely clear messages.

You continue to provide links to what other political parties or candidates are or are not saying is again, a distraction technique to draw focus away from the facts of Donald Trump and the facts are he is no champion of any pro-choice or anti-vaccine cause. Your rationale and position for Trump is weak and rather than HEAR what he says clear and concisely---you hear what you want to hear and elaborate on it. That's the sign of an excellent con man. He makes statements that are open ended to allow the person who hears it to put whatever meaning they want to it. When they do nothing they have plausible deniability.

Listen, read and hear what Trump says in his own words:

**The bottom line is they have to get vaccinated.
-When I was going to school as a young guy, polio was a really big problem and vaccines knocked it out. So the vaccines are very important, but we have to study the vaccines and we have to be very, very careful with vaccines.”

“Viewer question: What’s your position on freedom of choice regarding various vaccines"
Trump NEVER ANSWERED the question. He said:
"The bottom line is they have to get vaccinated."
https://sharylattkisson.com/trump-on-vaccines-and-autism-pro-vaccine-but-cautious/

-alter vaccination schedules to avoid autism: Trump says he favors vaccines, but giving children smaller doses over a longer period of time. He has blamed vaccines for causing autism in children. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-science-of-president-trump/

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 3, 2014
I'm not against vaccinations for your children, I'm against them in 1 massive dose. Spread them out over a period of time & autism will drop!

-Donald Trump quotes: Vaccines, Ebola and Universal Health Care
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:f1MgXxCjOnIJ:outbreaknewstoday.com/donald-trump-quotes-vaccines-ebola-and-universal-health-care-52395/+&cd=40&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
Via Twitter:

“If I were President I would push for proper vaccinations but would not allow one time massive shots that a small child cannot take – AUTISM.”

“To all haters and losers: I am NOT anti-vaccine, but I am against shooting massive doses into tiny children. Spread shots out over time.”.


You provide nothing to support your position that Trump is a champion for the pro-choice anti-vaxx cause other than Trump calls for studies. Again, I say SO WHAT! Provide me links to his plan on how he going to do this. Provide me links to how he plans on investigating the CDC. Provide me links to how he plans on taking on the pharmaceutical industry. Provide me links on how he can compel Congress and the Senate, who's members have a minimum of 3 pharma lobbyist attached to them, to challenge not only the CDC but the pharmaceutical industry who not only provided them with significant campaigns donations but hold the key to former Congressional or Senate members getting one of those cushy high paying lobbyist jobs after they leave office. Are yo capable of grasping the complexities of what you "think" Trump can do?

Open Secrets-http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=H04&cycle=2014&recipdetail=S&mem=Y&sortorder=U

http://www.opensecrets.org/revolving/top.php?display=Z.

You are either naive or ignorant but you clearly do not WANT to understand the words that are coming out of the mans mouth. Actually that would not be his fault...that is be yours.
 

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