Date:   2/9/2016 2:21:52 AM ( 8 y ago)
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RE: I don't think you can make silver solution without having both ionic and colloidal particles.

Science would agree. Since silver (metal) is known to be bioactive, this accounts for the ionic exchange taking place between silver compounds and subjective organisms. ie, Silver along with other metals will kill fungus on contact AND in proximity using such mechanisms. 

 

RE: So the percentage of each in solution would depend on the purity of the water and the electric current provided

With respect to low voltage DC processing(electrolysis), the ratio's (ionic/elemental) can be manipulated by way of redux. ie, by reducing the ionic component toward the nanoparticle state, or... alternatively, by taking measures to preserve the ionic component.

 

RE: Ionic silver is looking for something to grab onto to get or give it's extra electron. Colloidal is just complete silver atom with no charge.

Correct. Since silver ions are unstable and seek to stabilize by way of chemical interactions. 

 

RE: Logic says that you would want more ionic silver because it is actively trying to give up an electron or grab an electron.

In principal yes.  Whereas in practice, we must account for the chemical reactions along the way (transport and delivery)

 

RE: If we make the assumption (big leap) that free radicals generated by bacteria and fungus are throwing out electrons to invade and destroy our health or removing electrons from our tissue then the ionic silver grabs that material and removes it from the body. It then turns into Colloidal Silver . In order for colloidal silver to exist in solution it has to have received a free electron from something in the water.

(*) Given the volatility of silver ions (in this case) it's unlikely that it could ever reach its destination (in-vivo) without undergoing chemical transformations along the way. Which incidentally leads us to the infamous ionic vs colloidal silver controversy. That said, it's also worth noting that most LVDC (low voltage DC) silver solutions that are being made with home generators today, will produce silver compounds** that would classify as ionic by disposition due in part to the by-products created along with the electrolysis process. 

That said, with respect to the second portion of your comment (free electrons in water) the likely answer will depend on the process methods used to create the colloidal solution (nano/particulate etc.). Of which, may or may not require the admission of chemical agents or reactions. ie, an HVAC (High Voltage AC) electrolysis method could potentially produce elemental microparticles (pure silver metal) capable of remaining in suspension in solution(colloidal) under Brownian motion. Which essentially allows for the particles in questions to collide with the surrounding molecules(dimensionally) causing them to remain in suspension in much the same way we would keep a balloon in the air by repeatedly poking it. The effect takes place as these particles are inferior(in mass) to its surrounding molecules. A condition which will remain until one of the factors in balance is lost . - resulting in destabilization or change 

RE: I can't imagine what the colloidal silver does. I assume it actually attracts free ions from other metals like lead and cadmium.

I'm not sure I follow, though at first glance, I'd answer that the answer would likely depend on the context of the question. 

RE: If anyone has found an answer that describes the actual reaction, please post. All the generator sites just throw out statement without facts.

if this question pertains to how silver can treat certain conditions, then the short answer is that silver is proven to be toxic to a range of microorganisms. ie, in the case of bacteria, the effect is a two-fold in that silver ions alter the membrane of the bacteria making it permeable (vulnerable) as well as causing it to overproduce oxygen compounds. Which in turn, results in the bacteria destroying itself. A phenomenon that not only causes silver to be an effective antibacterial agent, but also complimentary to antibiotics, in that it can eliminate the effects of resistance. Which oddly enough, could have been used to avert the disaster of antibiotic resistance that we are now facing today. 

 

RE: I understand silver plating but there are reagents involved in that process.

One common scenario when people seek to rationalize colloidal silver and its application, is where they often approach the topic in black and white terms. Or in this case, in ionic and metallic forms. When in reality, there are a host of chemical reactions and exceptions to contend with. ie, The admission of the chemical changes that take place at the anode and cathode under electrolysis. The silver compounds and their characteristics both prior to, and following ingestion. and so-on, and so-forth. All of which, will contend with the potential of our assessment toward matters. 

 

- Hope this helps 
 

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