Date:   1/8/2016 10:40:25 PM ( 8 y ago)
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mst: ok, but this does not prevent you from attending an expensive church building headed up by a guy that went to seminary and teaches a weekly bible study to people who already believe, right? :)

V: Well I can say I've only ever been a part of churches that had very modest buildings, or were renting. I wouldn't be able to stand the churches with expensive buildings because of the constant nagging for more money so they can pay for the building.
As for the seminary part, sure, that part is true but I'd just as well prefer them not to have a seminary degree but I don't always have that choice. But to me, seminary and schools for learning the gift of healing is still not the same since I don't even think the gift of healing is something God gives anymore, as you know, for all the reasons I've stated in previous conversations, so going to a school to train for a gift God doesn't even still give is especially futile to me.
But also that guy from the video, Tom Loud, didn't just go to a healing school, he has his own. Hmmm, interested in making some money off of this futile school maybe?

mst: Which healing techniques that are taught are you specifically opposed to?

V: Well for example, the technique on how to make the shorter leg grow longer is taught at these healing schools because you know that's apparently an epidemic, right, the shorter leg epidemic. :) Actually in all seriousness, it probably is an epidemic and they've figured this out and there's a technique that works very well to grow out the shorter leg. I wonder if that would work with the epidemic of one eye is smaller than the other. I just learned that recently, that everyone has one eye smaller than the other. They need to work on healing that situation. Eyes should be equal! :)

MST: deeper training would also get into such things as helping those to whom this applies to release unforgiveness to the Lord, something which can be a very big obstacle to healing.

V: But why would this matter? Over and over when I see these videos like the one you posted above, they tell the person to not even pray with them because the "healer" wants the person to understand it's not their personal faith that is going to heal them but the faith of the "healer". So whether the person has lack of faith, unforgiveness, or whatever else, why should it matter?

But again, when I read the scriptures about the true biblical gift of healing, it just doesn't match what I see happening out there today with the people that claim they also have the true biblical gift of healing and so I can't just blindly accept it.

But also as I've said before, God can heal whenever he wants too. So if he wanted to heal that man in the video up above in that moment, he can do that. When I was younger, I was very very ill. For many months I could not hold down food. I was bones. My parents were very worried so they took me to be anointed. Now remember, I was in a cult, so the anointer was a cult leader. But that night after the anointing, I had a huge turn around, not a complete healing, but I began to be able to hold down food again. So I believe God partially healed me that day. Was it the cult anointer that had the gift of healing or did God just decide to partially heal me right then so I could live? I believe God can bring full or partial healing whenever he wants too.

And don't forget that Muslims, New Agers, all kinds of Cults, etc. claim to have their own miracles all the time too. I'm sure my partial healing was for many, proof of God's power at work in the anointer because we were the only true church. Not! Right?
 

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