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Re: That is the problem with you guys, the FDA reported that many producers of Colloidal Silver had no silver at all. by Esstee ..... Colloidal Silver Debate Forum

Date:   12/8/2015 3:51:18 PM ( 9 y ago)
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RE: You are saying that the Worlds Largest environmental Testing facility is going to purposefully give False Information? How Preposterous! NO way they are going to risk their name and integrity of their results for any a small company.

Absolute not. What I am saying however is that the COA does not provide any form of content analysis or measure of silver in solution(0). That said, I'd also add that the report actually works against the product claims in that there was no discernable metals measured in solution whatsoever, and where this is being misrepresented by yourself in the forums as a proof of content for the product in question. 

 

RE: That only applies to micrograms, and arriving at a high PPM colloidal solutions is a different process.

RE: You said it “CURRENT SET OF STANDARDS” that only apply to ionc and nanoparticle technology.

I have no idea what you're trying to say here, but since a PPM is a standard, we don't get to appeal to alternate definitions irregardless of processing. 

 

RE: You have to remember to make Ions or a couple to time larger than atoms, to make silver ions you have to use a chemical process, which is done with nanoparticle production, because when they break down the silver into nanoparticles there are also Ions that are produced along with the nanoparticles, and I would almost bet, that there are also single atomic particle that did not convert to ion in the solution.

I'm sorry to say this, but I can't make any sense of what you're trying to say here.  

 

RE: Not to sound repetitive but for the sake of the readers who do not go through every post, The RICE University Concluded that there are silver IONS in nanoparticle Colloidal Silver solutions….and they are what kills the viruses and bacteria and NOT the nanoparticles.

This makes perfect sense, as silver nanoparticles work by ionic exchange. Which is why effectiveness is tied-in so closely with the total particle surface area. 

 

RE: They were not supposed to be possible, but now they are a reality.

Reality implies verified proof. To which I'd add where does this leave us?
The reality is, that none of these types of solutions have been demonstrated to be true on any scale whatsoever. ie, silver content, chemistry, etc etc. 

 

RE: You and others can remain in constant DENIAL, no problem its to your best interests that you do I understand that.

That doesn't work for me I'm afraid.

 
My interests lay in the science and verification of the claims irregardless of the outcome. 
Though without any form of validation or theoretical framework, I see no potential for plausibility whatsoever in the veritability for these solutions. Which isn't saying much as these do not conform to any scientific methods. Which in turn, degenerates the claims even further. - and so the reality of the situation isn't good at all I'm afraid. 

 

RE: Oh, I agree chemically made colloidal silver solutions are TOXIC, the higher the PPM with chemicals the more toxic, it’s the chemicals that makes the solutions toxic.

This doesn't help your credibility at all at this stage. 

 

RE: Good Claims with a solid Certificate of Analysis that proves PPM and shows no toxicity. Which is why Dr. Dickens (who also tested the atomic particle colloidal silver) did not find any chemicals and is now using them to treat his cancer patients.

Since the COA does nothing to substantiate the claims made by yourself and/or seller, we're left with less than hearsay toward matters. Couple this with the recent measure of other monatomic silver solutions, and all things come into perspective accordingly. And while this may frustrate you(I'm sure), I'd add that these are the standing facts toward matters whether we like them or not. 


 

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