Re: article on Mark 10:18... by trapper/kcmo ..... Christianity Debate
Date: 5/26/2015 12:12:30 AM ( 9 y ago)
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ok, no need to keep pussyfooting around with this.
who is jesus? jesus is the scriptures robed in flesh. he is the word of god. and as such. he is one with god.
and just like any son, he too can become a father. our father is christ. that makes god our grandfather. but there again are the semantics.
when jesus asked the man, "why do ye call me good? there is none good except god," the man could have correctly replied, "but teacher, you said you and the father are one." and that is true.
they are not one in the same (unless of course you go crazy with all things are god because all things originate from him, but the bible does not teach pantheism). they act the same. they say the same things. a prophet of god is one who speaks the same words as god. and so on.
then there is the problem of worship. i get this whole hangup on jesus and worshipping him and such and it is a farce. there are no songs, there is no phrase, no babbling in tongues, no liturgy, no quoting of scripture which is worship. thats paganism. you can do that with casper the friendly ghost or micky mouse or the avengers or whatever, the service would look no different and the results would be the same - the same dead people that came in and participated in this idolotry are the same dead and rotted corpses that file out when its over.
people think i am trying to be cute when i say worship is imitation. and even that isnt accurate. it is yearning and striving to become just like someone. it is fueled with the most earnest and ardent desire. thats worship. who do you try to be? who do you try to look like, walk like, talk like, eat like, breath like, scratch your nose like? if its not god, youre worshipping something else. you become what you worship.
you see, god is unique. there will never be another like him. and so are all his progeny. conformity is rebellion. conformity to the world, that is. conformity with god sets a person free. ya gotta serve somebody.
the road to salvation is very simple. take the scriptures inside of you and then become them by walking them out. this is a purely personal road between you and the lord.
that mixing of the conformity to the scriptures and those things you bring to the spiritual genetic table[the things that make you unique] - he eats of your things, you eat of his things - and the son of man is formed inside of you. this is the one who will survive after your death. this is the day star which rises up inside of you. this is how you are saved. it is the "second appearing" of christ.
Romans 8:10
And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
1 Corinthians 15:16-18
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 and if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
2 Peter 1:8
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be BARREN nor UNFRUITFUL in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
we are all females in that we are all flesh that we may bear the son of man.
2 Timothy 3:14-16Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; 15 and that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
Philippians 2:12
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
1 Thessalonians 5:9
For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Hebrews 9:28
so Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
god said to listen to his son. that too is worship. god seeks those who worship him in spirit and in truth. these praise services are fake. the songs are fake. its all fake because thats NOT what jesus would do. thats NOT what the father would do. its idol worship. its worship of the flesh. and the flesh is enmity toward god. these are not seekers of good, they are hiding from god behind the church facade. these do not love god, they despise him in rebellion to his word and will. always giving themselves a pass on that, too. and all they have to do is obey the truth.
Matthew 11:30
For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
as for sin, that is no longer an issue. jesus died for all the sins of the whole world, past, present, and future. all have sinned. thats covered.
whats not covered? blasphemy of the holy spirit, whatever that means, and giving up. he who endures to the end shall be saved.
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