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Re: judge NOT........ by thornsandnails ..... Christianity Debate

Date:   2/9/2015 8:47:49 PM ( 10 y ago)
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I am very familiar with the history of the vulgate. It still does not change the fact the textus receptus, was used in the translation of the kjv. The only reason the KJV was ordered was to snuff out the geneva bible and the reformers. Which itself was based on the textus receptus. If you were talking about the wycliffe bible I could understand your assertions. But they do not apply to the kjv. It is critical to understand this, because the textus receptus was compiled by a humanist, not a catholic. While the vulgate was referenced, the original greek texts were the focus. using texts such as Codex Claromontanus,Codex Basilensis A. N. IV. 2, Codex Basiliensis A. N. IV. 1, Codex Basilensis A. N. IV. 4 , Minuscule (7,817,2814,2816) to name a few reference points.

 

he is both.  isaiah knew what he was saying:

Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

and again:

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

In Isaiah 45:7 God is just telling the Babylonian exiles that he is soverign. That he created everything. This does not demonstrate an any way that the prophet was equating the babylonian empire to christ but to anti-christ. You are taking passage that are not related and interjecting preconceptions into them. 

As for 5:20  Evildoers can be so blinded in their moral judgment that their evaluations of good and evil are the exact opposite of God’s true perspective

John 8

39 They answered and said to Him, "Abraham isour father." Jesus said to them, "If you are Abraham's children, do the deeds of Abraham. 
40 "But as it is, you are seeking to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God; thisAbraham did not do. 
41 "You are doing the deeds of your father." They said to Him, "We were notborn of fornication; we have one Father: God." 
42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father,you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and have come from God, for I have not even come on Myown initiative, but He sent Me. 
43 "Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because youcannot hear My word. 
44 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of yourfather. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is notruth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and thefather of lies. 
 
But I guess he was just talking about the flesh there </sarcasm> because it is obvious this about an entity that exist other than man.

well now thats the story they tell, aint it?
 
 
No that is what the book says

 



how can any man think he has it right if he conforms in any way to this world system?

 

Please elaborate further, scripture is clear we live here and are to give ceasers what is his. We are just travelers here.

 

As for the rest you are confusing the force driving man to do these things (Satan) with man himself. You give man too much credit. 


 

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