Date:   11/30/2014 7:59:25 PM ( 10 y ago)
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Please stop misleading people on this forum with lies, and references to sources like durianrider who have zero credentials. There's no evidence that Dr Stephen Phinney, who is speaking for himself in the interview, not Tim Olson, has Type II Diabetes. Even durianrider Harley "f-bomb potty mouth" Johnstone doesn't claim that Dr Phinney has Type II Diabetes, yet you used his tacky youtube video as a reference. Where's your proof that Dr Stephen Phinney has Type II diabetes?

Frankly, Johnstone's videos should all be banned from curezone for their offensive language.

Here are Dr Phinney's credentials which I'll stack up against Johnstone's lack of credentials any day:

Dr. STEPHEN PHINNEY a physician scientist who has spent 35 years studying diet, exercise, fatty acids, and inflammation.  He has held academic positions at the Universities of Vermont, Minnesota, and California at Davis; and leadership positions at Monsanto, Galileo Laboratories, and Efficas.  He received his MD from Stanford University, PhD in Nutritional Biochemistry from MIT, and did post-doctoral research at Harvard.

He has designed, completed, and published data from more than 20 clinical protocols involving foods, diets, exercise, oxidative stress, and inflammation.  His recent work in the private sector has resulted in several issued and pending patents.  He has authored more than 70 peer-reviewed papers and book chapters on a wide variety of topics, including the effects of diets and specific nutrients on inflammation, the interaction between diet and exercise and their effects on obesity, body composition, physical performance, and cellular membrane structure.

Dr. Phinney’s clinical experience includes 20 years of inpatient and outpatient clinical nutrition, including directing multidisciplinary weight management programs in 3 locations.  As an internationally recognized expert in obesity, carbohydrate-restricted diets, diet and performance, and essential fatty acid metabolism, he has given hundreds of presentations to industry, health care professional, and lay audiences.

Now which one am I going to believe? I think I'll go with the guy with degrees from Stanford, MIT and Harvard.

Now that I've disposed of that, let's talk about Colpo's write-up, which I already knew you'd bring up.

Colpo nicely start by saying that Tim Olson is "an amicable and humble enough guy. He’s clearly not an obnoxious, sleazy, trolling vegan whose insecurity and insatiable need for attention (not to mention greed for Youtube royalties) leads him to issue challenges to all and sundry that he has no intention of fulfilling"

I love this part because he's referring to your "highly qualified" reference, Harley "potty mouth" Johnstone, as obnoxious, sleazy and an insecure trolling vegan cashing in on YouTube royalties. Another good reason that links to his videos should be banned from curezone.

He further defends Tim Olson by saying "Tim seems to do things the way I think they should be done: He gets on with it and gets winning results, minus all the bullshit and braggadocio that has become the hallmark of much lesser individuals."

Beyond that, I don't really see anything in Colpo's writeup that tells me that Tim Olson is not Paleo. I also don't see anything that you extracted from Tim Olson's website in the form of a menu, that would indicate that he is not Paleo.

You deceptively put the "VFuel" thing in there as though it was part of his everyday diet, but that part is just on race day.

So, where in any of this evidence, is he not practicing a Paleo diet plan for more than 80% of his waking hours? Even if he were 40-30-30 which is your estimate and is likely incorrect, why is that not different than the Kenyan 80-10-10? The US minimum recommendation for carbs is 55%.

Tim doesn't like labels like "low-carb" or "Paleo", but here's what Tim says he really eats:

What I eat… Here is a sample of what I eat on a daily basis and days prior to a race. I hope to continue to put up some recipes on my blog for you to try out. I like to have a tablespoon or two of hazelnut or almond  butter in the morning before heading out for a run. On training runs 3-5 hrs I might use 1 or 2 gels. I like to keep the calories low to promote fat burning and if I don’t need it I like to not have much sugar in my diet. After a long day out on the trails I might have a green smoothie with kale, banana and some type of berries. If I don’t do a green smoothie I’ll have some scrambled eggs with sautéed kale or spinach and any other vegetables I have laying around the house with coconut oil and maybe some avocado too. For snacking, I make Kale chips which I try to always keep on hand. Other options for snacking are carrots or other raw veggies, nuts and seeds. I really like walnuts, pistachios, sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds. I also indulge in Justin’s hazelnut butter or some sweet potatoes chips after a hard run or race. And YES, I do enjoy a nice glass or two of red wine in the evening. As for dinner I’ll have some type of meat (normally chicken or venison), some vegetables (zucchini, brussels sprouts, avocado, artichoke, broccoli, carrots, kale, spinach, cabbage, peppers, onions, mushrooms…etc) either sautéed or raw, washed down with some tasty water.

In my book, that's Paleo. 

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