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Re: what did jesus say? by trapper/kcmo ..... Christianity Debate

Date:   9/7/2014 1:48:20 PM ( 10 y ago)
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he meant do as they say, not as they do. he meant they should be loved like everyone else. but mostly, and i cannot emphasize this point enough, he meant that the fruit is the proof of the tree.

we are inherently evil. the very noblest notions we can conjure are dung and offal to the creator. we piss straight into the wind if we think we can please god.

so what counts? well, its easy. what counts with you? i am now having an interaction with you and these efforts will produce fruit. will i have a benefit from this interaction? will you? will someone else by reading these posts?

that speaks to the kind of person that we are and that is what counts. intentions mean nothing. our good ideas are crap. we can be ignorant and misled in a myriad of ways. every thought and intent and purpose of our hearts is only evil continually, if ya wanna know what the father thinks.

the only way out is to repent - a literal changing of the mind. not tricks of grammar or some magical words you repeat over and over for favor with god. thats all play acting. whats real is the fruit you leave in your wake for others to be inflicted with. will they like it? will the father? they are all made in his image and after his likeness.

so thats what he meant. he told them they were missing the boat. they still are.
 

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