Date:   8/11/2014 8:03:00 PM ( 10 y ago)
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Saywhatagain, Welcome to the long centuries drawn out debate of Arminianism and Calvinism.
You obviously side with the Arminians. :)

Charles Spurgeon, one of the greatest preachers of all time, whom Arminians like to quote a lot, said Calvinism is the gospel, and anyone that does not believe the doctrines of Calvinism, are heretics. I just give that example to show that there are very strong opinions on both sides as to what false doctrine is. Calvinists believe Arminians preach false doctrines and some will even say, Arminians preach a false gospel.

I do not like to call myself a Calvinist and I've said why many times on here. The term Calvinism has gotten a huge amount of baggage over the years. But then again, so has Armianism.

I prefer to call myself a Christian. I believe my beliefs line up with the Bible otherwise I wouldn't believe them. I found old threads here on curezone last night that really peaked my interest. One of the posters I found went by the name PBC. His beliefs sounded very much like mine. Someone asked him if he was a Calvinist, and he said he didn't know anything about any of that, that his beliefs came from the bible. I'd love for PBC to come back and help me out. :)

Whether you like it or not, the doctrines of Calvinism, which include some of what I posted in my post, are not considered heretical within Christianity. You basically have two camps within Christianity, Arminianism and Calvinism and everyone's beliefs will fall into one or the other, despite people saying they don't fall in either camp. They do!

So I understand that if this is all new to you, it's shocking, but the Calvinistic beliefs have been around for a while. In fact, most christians used to be calvinists but somewhere in time, that changed. Calvinism is very much on the rise though, and who knows, it may become the majority once again.

I guess I'm rambling with all this.

I will end this by saying, yes, I very much believe we choose God, but that he chooses us first.

1 John 4:19
19 We love because he first loved us.

John 15:16
You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.

Acts 13:48
And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.

 

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