Just wanted to chime in for a moment. I probably won't have time to come back and respsond, but I just wanted to say I would not be caught dead at the same conference with an apostate like John Crowder. It shows a lack of discernment on the attendees, as well as the management who put the event together. All these people do not share the gospel of Christ, but instead preach a gospel of works.
Crowder takes this to a whole new level though:
They make a mockery of the holy spirit
"Yes, I've seen apostle Tony Fitzgerald chase a leader of my former church around the room at a men's retreat, trying to lay hands on him and "slay him in the spirit" as they both giggled. And more recently, the image of James Goll, sucking on a baby jesus to get high, sticks in my mind. And for years, people have been explaining off weird manifestations." -William Fawcett
"You know lots of those people manifesting, its actually angels fooling around, messing with them and stuff. Angels are really playful." -John Crowder
There are 5 core Biblical principals to test teachings of any “New” or “Enlightened” View. “…do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.” 1John4:1 “Jesus is the same today, yesterday, and tomorrow” Hebrews 13:8
1. The Trinity: God is one “What” and three “Whos” with each “Who” possessing all the attributes of Deity and personality. 2. The Person of Jesus Christ: Jesus is 100% God and 100% man for all eternity. 3. The Second Coming: Jesus Christ is coming bodily to earth to rule and judge. 4. Salvation: It is by grace through faith alone in Christ alone. 5. The Scripture: It is entirely inerrant and sufficient for all Christian life.
Any group that deviates from these 5 core doctrines is a cult. “A cult of Christianity is a group of people, which claiming to be Christian, embraces a particular doctrine system taught by an individual leader, group of leaders, or organization, which (system) denies (either explicitly or implicitly) one or more of the central doctrines of the Christian Faith as taught in the sixty-six books of the Bible.” (Alan Gomes, Unmasking The Cults, Zondervan, 1995)
Most apostasy will not directly outright speak against 5 basic doctrines. However I do believe the Holy Spirit sets alarms with us. LISTEN! and be true to the Holy Spirit and test. Look at their doctrine, who they associate with, and history. If you find them to be questionable FLEE! Do not return. Too many times I have heard…but their music rocks, or well the message was not “all” bad. All you do digging thru garbage is get dirty. God tells us to stay away! Why do that to the Holy Spirit…why desensitize your self? Why possibly compromise your ability to discern?
Here are some quotes from proven false teachers:
BILL JOHNSON (notice he was in the video) “He performed miracles, signs, and wonders as a man in a right relationship with God…not as God. If he performed miracles because he was God then it would be unattainable for us” Bill Johnson page 29 When Heaven Invades Earth. ~~ This is known as Kenosis heresy, that Jesus laid aside His divine nature. He has many quotes spewing this heresy. This is a gross misuse of Phil 2:7. Christ emptied Himself of his prerogatives, glory, and privilege. If divinity can be laid aside then it is not divinity to begin with.
RANDY CLARK: “The theme of this conference is “Equipping Church Leadership With Power”. Each Pastor and Worship Leader will participate in three workshops. The workshops are: 1) 5-step Healing Prayer Model, 2) Worship, 3) Small Groups. The workshops have a three-fold purpose. There will be teaching, impartation and practice. The workshops are designed to be interactive and involve the participation of the attendees. We believe this is the most effective way of impartation.” This was from a letter to set up the “Catch The Fire” conference in Russia for church leaders. Several things are askew in the above scenario. (1) Only God can equip church leadership to do what He wants done, whether in power or in humble persecution. The “with power” statement is egotistic and false advertising. (2) If the desire was to “equip church leadership” then wouldn’t subjects like “authority under Christ”, “leadership through humility”, and “servant hood” serve this purpose much better than supposedly teaching people a model of how to heal (ie. “the emphasis will be on understanding and using the 1 Cor 12 spiritual gifts in praying for the sick and unsaved. Pastors and Worship Leaders will have the opportunity to practice what they learned both in the workshop and the evening session ministry time”), a legalistic plan of worship to get people ready for the “impartation” (ie.“the emphasis will be on understanding the power and presence of God to move on His people during intimate worship”), and how use small groups to get people indoctrinated into techniques of “intercession” and “impartation” (ie.“the emphasis will be on imparting the life and the ministry of the Holy Spirit in home group settings. A secondary emphasis will be on identifying, recruiting, training, mentoring, observing and deploying home group leaders”), etc.? (3) Teaching people how to receive the “impartation” (let’s get to the bottom line here, folks), giving the “impartation” and practicing by passing it on to others is not a Scriptural model of how to be a leader in church or do evangelism. We are not to preach and spread some sort of “impartation”, no matter how holy it makes people feel. We are to preach the gospel and to remain in sound doctrine. (Randy Clark, “Letter Of Invitation” to churches in the former Soviet unlon inviting them to the “Catch The Fire” conference in Moscow, 25-27 March 1996, 1/18/96; with commentary by Deception In The Church)
More very dangerous quotes: “I don’t preach doctrine, I preach faith.” “The basic principle of the Christian life is to know that God put our sin, sickness, disease, sorrow, grief, and poverty on Jesus at Calvary,” “Christ “had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit.” -eviecat21.wordpress.com
