Re: RENSE - GORDON DUFF INTERVIEW 6/10/2014 at Conspiracy Forum

TOPIC(S): This particular interview with Gordon Duff is quite telling, imo. To the point that I felt compelled to transcribe it to a written format. As follows:

Gordon Duff: I got some explaining to do, here, as to what has transpired.
We were hit with a National Security Letter this last week. As a member of the press, I am a retired member of a Security Service, which theoretically subjects me to National Security, but I spent my last years under what’s called “non official cover”, meaning I have Military Retirement & Benefits, but I do not have Civil Service Retirement & Benefits. And under those circumstances, I am not subject to any of their restricted doctrines. I can say anything… that’s why I get away with what I do because I never took, at a certain point, “their nickel”.

Jeff Rense: Okay, you didn’t complete the deal, so to speak. You maintained your independence.

Gordon Duff: There’s a thing that’s going on, here, with the endless number of former CIA people that are out there that are all analysts that worked in embassies, or whatever. Or, they worked in a cube at Langley and they drove out to the airport & were flown out to somewhere where they had shoot somebody, and then sneak back on the plane, you know. In real life Intelligence people work for newspapers, and they sell hotel supplies… things like that.

Rense: … And they run internet websites… and they do all kinds of fun things. We are inundated on the internet, and very few people understand it, with government & big corporate agents/assets – an entire created opposition paradigm – everywhere.

G Duff: There’s a reason I am here with you now, one other than what you’re aware. And that’s that a number of people had decided that they were going to cage you into that area…. I have a wealth of background on you – it’s my job. And, of anyone with the idea of accusing you of anything is insane because you’ve been counted way too many times, you have stood in front of the bullet way too many times. ‘They’ were ready to ‘box’ you up with Alex Jones.

Rense: Yep, yep. No, I don’t answer to anyone & I never have. And I wouldn’t have it any other way. Thank you for that. And I know that you probably do know more about me than anyone else. And there’s nothing there, except me! That’s the funny part.

Duff: Towards this end… and my own life has changed to the extent that… I am a CEO of a London based public company – an aerospace company. So I am working fairly regularly, on planes doing day work. A lot of Veteran’s Today has gone into the hands of others. A couple of things have come together, here, more or less. I work for the ruling families of the UAE, or the stockholders in Adamus, you may probably know.

Rense: Yes.

G Duff: And it has given me… I can’t say necessarily – I can’t call it ‘legitimacy’. Its just that when I eat lunch with somebody worth 25 billion dollars all the time, that rubs off, as not legitimacy, it’s the smell of money. Now, I don’t get to see very much of it. But the smell of all that money is there.

Rense: Its heavy cologne.

G Duff: It has driven Intelligence Sources, here [US], that, you know, frankly has put a couple of things to bed for us. And some of these sources, this is what I am finding, that as I’ve gone into your [Rense] material from the last 5 or 6 years, you have had some serious Intelligence sources from the U.N. that have given you material. And this is part of handling it alone, but a lot of the really prime stories that have come out, you broke. And they weren’t able to be followed up on adequately, because the timing, I think, was wrong – we didn’t have enough things together.

What happened here, with the Ukraine, and this is what’s changed everything. The story we’re talking about in Veterans Today was initially published – I submitted it 4 weeks ago to New Eastern Outlook (NEO), a Moscow-based journal, run by the Russian Academy of Science. They couldn’t get authorization to publish it because its an archival piece that describes the founding of the Mossad by Communists, as a way of infiltrating the United States government. But it’s a simple historical piece based on input from high-level people within Intelligence Agencies. Its worded fairly neutrally, its an historical document. Within this document, however, within the article I wrote, is something that apparently had crossed the line. [Emphasis mine.]

There were two places that was hit with the Security Letter on:
(1) The Department of Energy after 9/11 instituted a study through Sandia Labs investigating the use of nuclear weapon in 9/11. Released their finding in 2003, and the findings released in 2003 indicated that in 9/11 two W54 “pits”, and these were remanufactured "pits". And I will describe what a W-54 is:

During the “cold war”, the United States built 400 warheads out of Plutonium for 155mm artillery. Because the artillery has to fit into a barrel, these plutonium “pits”, which are hollow inside, were 1-1/2 times larger than what they were suppose to be, because they’re oblong – a very strange shape. They were mostly made at Hanford. The key issue here, and we won’t have a lot of physicists in the audience, is that Hanford produces the purest Uranium 239 [Plutonium 239] that has the slowest rate of breakdown. Plutonium 239 turns to 240-241 & then coats with Americium after a period of 10 or 12 years – a plutonium warhead – like the ones used from Dimona that the Israelis made, and they only made 75 we found, by the way. They break down in as soon as 10-12 years. You could take, let’s say, a series of “pits” that were made into these W54 warheads & when they’ve worn out & they’re brought back to Pantex in Amirillo Texas, they can be re-machined into new warheads – three into two, or two into one. Meaning that, you can take the high-quality U.S. plutonium & you could keep bombs going on this same construction for as long as 96 years. The Israeli stuff only last 12 years.

If you take an output of a number of “pits” from different reactors, or different heaters, they will go into fission if you try to remanufacture them. You have to have from the exact same year. And I published the documentation specifically & formula on how to remanufacture the “pit”. We put it up, of course, it was in the report.

Here’s key issue we had in the report, and Dimona crashed in 1988. And since 1988 Israel has not produced a domestic nuclear weapon. No nuclear weapon that Israel has ever produced still functions today.

Rense: Wait, wait, wait. What about this warhead arsenal they have? Are they just keeping it around for a Tel Aviv version of the Smithsonian – they don’t work?

Duff: Not one. It is not conceivable. I have the accident plan, I have the full plans. We published the full plans for Dimura(?).

Rense: What does Vinunu have to say about this?

Duff: Vanunu left in 1986, and Vanunu is the one that Dimona was operating at one-third capacity, producing very little fissionable material when he left.

Rense: Now, okay, Mordechai Vanunu came forward with this, folks – just so you know, and spent 18 years, or something in solitary confinement, and they still won’t let him out of Israel & won’t let him talk. But he blew the whistle on it. This is all quite revelatory…

Duff: Let me go considerably further… in 1990 Jim Henke, my chief of staff, wearing radioactive detector shoes (honest to god) toured Dimona, along with Ambassador Pinkerton. And Colonel Henke was defense attache to Israel for the U.S. Army. What was learned there, and was learned from sources you’ve worked before, and we won’t mention that name – we don’t mention, is that Dimona had an accident in 1988 destroy the containment with a proton stream. And Dimona has not been able to produce anything but 20 percent medical isotope since 1988. Since 1988, the entire Israeli arsenal is made up of former Soviet weapons, and 350 W54 “pits” stolen from the Pantex facility, taken out of Pantex facility in research trucks stored in a fertilizer plant in the town of West Texas, shipped by Mr [Viktor] Bout (if you know who we’re talking about) to the Canary Islands. They were stored in interim in an iron mine in Mauritania, taken to Tel Aviv and re-machined there. Those warheads were sold somewhere in the Israeli arsenal, some were sold to Saudi Arabia, some to South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan, Brazil – we have the numbers.

Now, the issue that came up that allowed us to track these – you have two ways to essentially track the movement of fissionable material: One would be the proton stream, and the other are gamma rays. We expound on a few areas, here, and this is a minor divergence, which is: we were wrong about involving conjecture with Israel. Now that we actually have the real files – we have all of them. One of the things that came up was about the Mavi Marmara. People wondered: “Why would they be so stupid as to go after that ship. Now, we knew that they told the U.S. that they believed that the Mavi Marmara had nuclear weapons attached to the hull, and they were using that shielding to move nuclear weapons inside Gaza & go after an Israeli target. Now, I had figured…being… I guess I give Israel too much credit, but I was figuring that they were using this as a way to get the U.S. to stand back, to brutalize people, to murder people, to steal the ship & to have the U.S. stand-down. Instead we found, it was the Saudis that had fed the Israelis the story. There was nothing on the ship, but the Israelis were genuinely stupid enough to have believed it.

Now the warheads that were supposedly on the Mavi Marmara were of the 3 that were manufactured for South Africa. And that’s another story, and we won’t head in that direction.

We’re going to head back to where we got a fair amount of trouble – we were threatened with long-term cold storage in a U.S. military facility.

Rense: Who threatened you?

Gordon Duff: The Department of Justice

Rense: Eric? Eric, boy… okay.

Now, these are the things this admits to: It admits we have an attractive history of the cooperation between James Angelton & Kim Philby in the establishment of the Mossad. How the U.S. had attempted to set up the Mossad as a way of… and this was the assumption of the U.S. all along – that Israel was going to be a Communist country, that the Mossad was going to be an arm of the KGB that the U.S. could infiltrate & using & turning Mossad agents, we could get inside Russia. However, at the same time, the person who set this up was Britain’s spy chief, Kim Philby.

And, if you could tell the audience about Kim Philby:

Jeff Rense: Kim Philby was a very interesting character, he died in 1988. Called the
Great Betrayal”, high ranking member of British Intel, double agent before defecting to the Soviets in 1963 – that’s when he did go over the wall. He served as both an NKVD and KGB operative. A bad, bad black mark, kind of like Jonathan Pollard in the UK, but even worse.

G Duff: He was one of the Cambridge Five. In addition to Philby, this was also admitted – the Russians admitted to these things “officially”, they admitted that they had helped to establish the Mossad & used it as a deep penetration for the FBI, CIA & the U.S. They admitted to running Jonathan Pollard as a Russian spy. Its there, its there in print admitted to. Jonathan Pollard was a Russian spy. And their quote, I have the quote there – they used the Mossad as a “cutout”, so that if he [Pollard] was caught, they [the Mossad] would be blamed. But he received his assignments from the KGB, as a Russian spy.

Rense: Wouldn’t surprise me, yeah, Kim Philby got a postage stamp after he died, in the Soviet Union.

G Duff: (2) And the other one that Russia admitted to is that, and this was on a note in the documents they sent me, they’re saying… “Well, Snowden didn’t give us this, but we have it anyway… that they have the “real” 9/11 Report outlining, not just that 9/11 World Trade Center was destroyed by nuclear weapon(s) that were built from “pits” that were made from the W54 warhead that had been supposedly destroyed & turned into multi-oxide fuel at the Pantex Plant in Amarillo, Texas. [see (1) above, regading investigation initiated by The Department of Energy through Sandia Labs]

Rense: Well… so, 9/11 was a product of American engineering out of Amarillo & Pantex – at least the two Towers.

G Duff: The issue we haven’t gone into… and I’m not sure how to do this with the kind of impact it involves – but 9/11 wasn’t an act of terrorism. By the standards we have, 9/11 was a warning.

Rense: It was a geo-political statement. No question about that.

G Duff: 9/11 involved a couple of issues that we’ll go right into that. Yes, I met one of the top ten anti semites in the world – welcome to that. 9/11 was set up openly to make sure that no Jews were killed on 9/11, which, you know – good or bad, if people want to save their own people – that’s fine. I don’t know what I’m suppose to say – Kill your own people? You know. That is not deniable. It is provable. 9/11 was a demonstration of the capability to set off nuclear weapons within the United States that were & are, to this day, in place in 25 cities. 9/11 was not an attempt to send the U.S. into a murderous war against Afghanistan, Iraq & Iran. 9/11 was blackmail against President Bush [George W] that unless he agreed to do what he was told, ‘they’ would set off weapons in American cities.

Rense: Huh… Alright. Let’s cogitate on that a bit. We have to take a break. Be right back with Gordy in just a minute. Hold on.

Okay, let’s continue our chat with Gordy. And we are plowing through some very interesting situations. And I should mention that the idea of nukes taking down the two Towers is really irrefutable. If you look at it & study the old Davy Crockett. I mean, I don’t know how many millimeters that was, 140—150mm, and you say the current configuration is 155mm that can be put into a piece of artillery.

Gordon Duff: The Davy Crockett uses the same “pit”. It uses the W54 warhead but in a different reflector configuration. The Davy Crockett, which is only less than 1 kiloton, has a very slow initiation. And so has a very minimal output. The same warhead, with the same “pit”, with a different lens configuration can do a thousand times the output.

Now, the issue we had “math-wise” in the Report is that the Department of Energy, and the Department of Energy said that the Towers were brought down by 1 kiloton. They were set for 1 kiloton.

Jeff Rense: Well, that’s a Davy Crockett.

Gordon Duff: These were reconfigured minimal residual radiation, they had the full signatures. And the ways these initiated, they went hot for only… I have some of the art from the Report I put up. Including, they have drawings of the buildings, and they show which areas of the buildings were vaporized, which areas received minimal damage, how the explosions climbed the Towers, how they reached a point where the heat went to 4000 degrees centigrade for a ten-thousandth of a second, how that dropped the building.

Rense: It melted some cars, too. Now, let me ask a question. Yes, I am completely in accord with you on this – the thirteen center columns were just completely vaporized, and that’s what brought the building down. Were there also exterior charges along various key coordinates of the structure on the way down? Boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom. As Willie Rodriguez told me on the program, here, - last man out of the building, for months there was one floor that no one was allowed to go on. And they heard all the time on that floor – from below it & above it. He said that it was obvious that there was staging…

Gordon Duff: They had records of high-explosives being used & cut columns.

Rense: Yeah, yeah, okay. Very good. The column cutting was obvious, we got photographs of that.

Gordon Duff: One of the areas… and, you know, if all we ever learned were things that went along with what we had been taught to believe. It would be frankly as if we were making it all up. They also said that [building] 7 was brought down by a single nuclear charge in the sub-basement and it just dropped it.

Rense: It looked like it. I didn’t see any evidence of any floor-by-floor charges going off, at all.

Gordon Duff: You have the drawing of the dropping of [building] 7 in your email. Its in your mail. And its titled “How to bring down a short building”.

Rense: Yeah, I want to also, while we’re doing this, commend Dr. Ed Ward [click to listen to 2007 interview - EWard_9/11/07.mp3], who was really the first person to stand up & make the connection with a nuclear-shaped charge, and Ed deserves an awful lot of credit for that. Well done Dr Ed if you’re listening.

This is now to a point where the only people who don’t care, or have no brains, could deny that that building didn’t turn to dust from some kind of explosive charges laid out on every floor. It just doesn’t happen.

Gordon Duff: Here’s what we have… we have an acknowledgement from the government of Russia that they have The American Report, and it is published in Russia. They acknowledge they have The Report, they acknowledge what it says, they acknowledge Pollard. They acknowledge all these things. And they’re doing it – and I put the accusation out there – because of their anger over what is going on in Ukraine.

And they acknowledge that part. But they have a desire to set the historical record straight, or at least that's their claim. And they spent three weeks sitting on this before... and this is an "official" publication of the government of Russia.