Date:   4/20/2014 1:20:40 AM ( 10 y ago)
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If these are just regular threads doing regular things, then somebody slap me and I'll sit down and shut up!

Well, the red and blue threads looks like regular manufactured threads to me. The "node", or trapping clusters on it however look Morgy, not unlike so many photos sufferers post that show lesion matter and infected hair. 

 They don't seem harmful and just may be beneficial(nematode, etc. trapping). In other words, they're a response to my infection, not THE infection. 

Clew the optimist finding silver linings:) But it does feel about right to me. This type of explanation works for some of the mindboggling aspects of Morgellons incluing the relatively low contagiousness and the association with tick-borne illnesses. For 3 years I've been trying to judge the toxicity of these fibers, and I change my mind from day to day. Perhaps it is our borrellia, bartonella, nematode, and/or candida loads that determine how plagued we are by Morg fibers.

A press release from the recent Morgellons coference in Texas mentions a presentation suggested a lack of fungal involvement with Morgellons. http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/04/prweb11768818.htm

Ms. Middelveen, a microbiologist skilled in Medical Mycology, demonstrated through detailed contrast and comparison that there was no evidence to support fungal involvement with the etiology of MD.

Unfortunately, researchers from the conference apperantly do not feel compelled to present their research to the online Morgellon's community. These scientists would do well to interact with the "psuedoscientists"- to guide these amateurs in the scientific method as well as to learn from their experiences. Rather, the standard seems to be to distance themselves. Do they jest at those, who failed by modern medicine, desperately bought microscopes and stool strainers?:

With a light-hearted flair, the subject of Pseudoscience was addressed by Lisa Wallace, RN, MSN, PHN. Her contribution, “A House Divided: The Detrimental Effects of Pseudoscience on the Quest for the Validation of Morgellons", was most informative and entertaining.

Well, the online Morg community hasn't been informed, so glad that y'all stayed entertained in TX. FWIW I care not so much whether Morgellons is "validated", I'm seeking treatment solutions. Everyone in my world knows it is real, the CDC (alongside Wikipedia) seems like one of the last online bastions of the DOP camp. (Mayo Clinic no longer cites their own studies, their website now put the onus of DOP suggestions on the CDC/Kaiser study).

Psuedoscientists are the ones who told me to try epsom salt baths, equine anthelmintics, borax detergent, warned me of e-pollution and sugar and scabies creams. These measures gave me life back when the doc's antibiotics, antidepressants, and bleach bath Rxs did nothing for me.

I really appreciate the way Carnicom puts his research out there, as working theses, with beautiful photos, everything linked, meticulous citation... Both he and OP seem openminded to the possibility of a new type of unclassified life form, while remaining grounded by trying to match up what they see with traditionally recognized organisms.

This is an open forum and I am sure Clew would be thrilled to hear reactions to his images and ideas from established professional scientists. If I knew anything about lichen I'd share not rant. The doors open....

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