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Re: Honest question - do you really think you've got AF ? by purplepixie ..... Adrenal Fatigue Forum

Date:   8/31/2013 7:39:57 AM ( 11 y ago)
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Yes, oftentimes the fight flight response is referred to as just that - fight or flight, and often missed-out is the 'freeze' element to the scenario too.

Interesting studies in your wiki link of high serotonin inducing increased freezing behaviour. All those people on SSRI's that feel no change in symptoms won't IF the root cause if a freeze behavior block.

Also interesting the study on hormone levels and such behavior - low hormones = increased freeze characteristics.

When this mechanism is the root cause of HPA axis dysfunction, it seems that biofeedback treatment is the most successful from all i've read so far.
Of course there are other methods to re-train the brain too, yet bio-feedback has been extensively studied on PTSD war vets for instance, and has shown huge promise.

It'll be interesting to read your method for re-training HPA dysregulation Craig. Truly, it's a common issue in today's high-stress lifestyle and other common methods don't work for many.
I would not fear not being heard, as when ill, the willingness to shift perspective for the sake of cure is at an all time high! (I've tried some wacky out-there things! :-))

However, my personal opinion on causes of AF is that there are MANY stressors able to produce an exaggerated adrenal response or complete adrenal failure, with HPA axis fight/flight/freeze dysregulation being just one of them, and commonly presents as hyper-adrenalism, increased cortisol, adrenaline etc.

I'm not yet convinced, so far, through researches that emotional stress alone can cause adrenal hypo-function. Seems we have an amazingly strong chemical survival mechanism, and the adrenals will pump out excess cortisol for decades leaving us in the loop of 'wired and tired' hyper-adrenalism, as Lam calls it.

It's plausible emotional stress + another stressor can eventually deplete cortisol production, when you consider a post-operative infection alone can induce complete adrenal insufficiency in weeks to a patient with no prior adrenal issues.
 

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