Re: Do the Charismatics have some other level of Spirituality they have attained? by vektek ..... Christianity Debate
Date: 5/30/2013 6:22:51 PM ( 11 y ago)
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God's sovereignty doesn't limit man's free will altogether but it does limit it. I think we've had that discussion before, but it was a while back.
Proverbs 16:9
The heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps.
I don't know how many times I've made a plan, and it didn't go how I planned. I know that's because God had something else in mind, and he established my steps to His plan. My will was my plan but God's will and plan overrode my will and plan.
But I ask you, how can God be absolutely sovereign if he never interferes with our free will? I think we've gone through the whole Jonah story before too. I put a good article up recently about what would Jonah say if someone asked him about free will.
You should read Luther's Bondage of the Will:
"The Bondage of the Will" is a must for anyone interested in the doctrine of predestination. Luther himself DE CLAREd this book to be one of the best he had ever written. The book is a response to "The Diatribe Concerning Human Freedom" by Erasmus. A great work by a masterful theologian, "The Bondage of the Will" covers what Luther believed concerning human free will, God's knowledge and future contingents, predestination, prevenient and efficacious grace, as well as the providence and glory of God. Luther is somewhat overbearing at times in his responses to Erasmus, but this simply helps the reader to understand Luther's personality a little better. Some will see "The Bondage of the Will" as nothing more than Martin Luther's combative apologetic against the doctrine of free will and works salvation. But this is precisely why it ranks among the best ever written because it passionately, logically, and decisively deals with the error concerning free will and the error adding any human merit to salvation. The subject matter according to Luther is "the hinge on which the whole gospel turns".
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