Date:   12/30/2012 9:00:14 PM ( 12 y ago)
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Well, I already posted my flush sequence results in the form of quantitative measures related to running pace. This is what I posted in 2002.

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This along with clearing of my Psoriasis and other infections convinced me of the flush benefits. Two years after that post, and after another string of 5 or 6 flushes, I ran my first marathon ever, and qualified for the Boston Marathon by running the entire 26.2 miles at 7:30 minutes per mile.

Regarding the "green" color of the "stones", I substituted Flaxseed Oil for the Extra-Virgin Olive-Oil on a flush and still produced green "stones", so the naysayer who said that the green coloration was from the oil, was incorrect. What else can it be if it's not from the oil? It can only be bilirubin, or a constituent of bile.

On the last point, about the soft "stones". There is something odd about that point. I don't have a gallbladder because I caved into having it removed just because I had discomfort, and sampling of my bile led to a diagnosis of cholesterol crystallization which was presumed to be causing my irritation. Basically, I had "sluggish" bile. That was about 18 years ago.

So I get these soft "stones" even without a gall bladder, but they're all pretty small; no greater than 1/4 inch. Even though they're solid but soft at body temperature, 98-99 degrees F, they will eventually turn to liquid at room temperature. It's hard to call the process "melting" at room temperature, because it was warmer in the environment in which they were formed, and they were solid at that temperature. Solids don't typically melt when they get colder.

So what's really happening?

There are volumes of scientific studies related to the interactions of intestinal bacteria and bacterial toxins with cholesterol and bile acids.

http://www.usnews.com/science/articles/2012/08/13/studying-digestive-health


Bacteria = cholestasis

http://www.hindawi.com/journals/dte/1998/459378/abs/

https://louisville.edu/medschool/gimedicine/division-lecture-files/parajuli-l...

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1574-6968.2004.tb09768.x/pdf


If you read much of the medical literature, the influence of intestinal bacteria on bile is an area that's just now being studied. I would hypothesize that those who feel compelled to do these flushes because they don't feel well, likely have some level of intestinal dysbiosis, as was in my case. Through CDSA I had measured overgrowths of Staph Aureus, Pseudomonas Aeruginosa and Candida Parapsilosis.

I would also hypothesize that the action of intestinal bacteria on these gelatinous stones is not complete, and the interaction continues when the "stones" are outside the body, which is why they liquefy over time in the presence of air.

I'm now experimenting further on myself by making and ingesting homemade kefir made from kefir grains (probiotics) along with FOS (prebiotics) in between flushes to see if I can decrease and eliminate the "stones" that are produced on future flushes. I've done one cycle of this already and produced far fewer "stones" (less than 100 small in size).

Google "Microbiota" and "Bile" or "Cholesterol" and you'll find some very complex studies.
 

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