Re: 26 Flushes Later by fectoid2 ..... Liver Flush Debate Forum
Date: 12/18/2012 10:50:59 AM ( 12 y ago)
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Thanks, 155216.
Being a scientist by education and in career, I continue to seek understanding. There's no question that the Liver Flushes in and of themselves provide a benefit, and the reasons are obvious, but I still wrestle with trying to understand why the benefit is shortlived for some, and what contributes to the state of impaired bile flow to begin with?
I'm really beginning to focus more on the delicate, diverse and very uniquely individual eco-systems that exist within the human digestive tract. the number of legitimate scientific studies that have been conducted related to this system has skyrocketed over the last 4 years. That living eco-system is now being recognized as an "organ" within the human body. Just google the term 'intestinal microbiota' and you'll see what I mean.
"The different compartments of the gastrointestinal tract are inhabited by populations of micro-organisms. By far the most important predominant populations are in the colon where a true symbiosis with the host exists that is a key for well-being and health. For such a microbiota, 'normobiosis' characterises a composition of the gut 'ecosystem' in which micro-organisms with potential health benefits predominate in number over potentially harmful ones, in contrast to 'dysbiosis', in which one or a few potentially harmful micro-organisms are dominant, thus creating a disease-prone situation."
So what i know about myself is:
1. Antibiotics started my Candidiasis when I was in my teens.
2. Treatment of the Candidiasis with Nystatin, led to more sickness and overgrowths of Staph Aureus, Pseudomonas Aeruginosa and Candida Parapsilosis (confirmed through CDSA), all of which are "harmful" micro-organisms.
3. This led to Cholestasis and the subsequent removal of my gallbladder in an unsuccessful attempt to alleviate discomfort
4. Tanalbit, which is effective against all three of the named micro-organisms led to a feeling of well being.
5. The feeling of well being was further improved through liver flushes.
6. Bile is known to be a probiotic to good intestinal bacteria and an anti-biotic to harmful bacteria. This is why the harmful bacteria "shut-off" the flow of bile.
So what I seek to determine is how to optimally re-establish and maintain the eco-system that is so critical to overall well being.
This eco-system is now being implicated in being a cause for, rather than a result of, obesity, diabetes, liver disease and on and on and on. The age of Antibiotic use and formula feeding in infancy is changing the overall make-up of this eco-system with each generation affecting both physical, as well as emotional/psychological health.
I think that it just may be the piece of the puzzle that's missing for the liver flushers who don't seem to make it to 100%.
I've left out a lot of journal references, but anyway, here's what I posted on curezone in 2002 which provides more specific detail on how I really knew the Liver Flushes were a benefit to me:
In an attempt to improve my health, I took up running after having my gall bladder out nearly five years ago. Each time I run, I measure my distance and pace (minutes/mile) I have settled on 5 miles, 3 to 4 times per week and I run the same course most of the time. Each time I run, I push myself to my physical limit, trying to run faster than I did the time before. Although I have had ups and downs in terms of speed, I have never recorded a shift in speed and energy like that which occurred following the liver flushes.
During the month of August, my average speed was 7:05 per mile. During the month of September my pace dropped to 7:08 per mile. For the first four runs in October, my pace further dropped to 7:27 per mile, and I had to shorten three of the four runs from five down to four miles due to lack of energy. I had contemplated trying a Liver Flush for some time for a number of reasons and decided that this was now the time.
I performed my first Liver Flush on October 4th, and on October 10th, six days later, I ran my five mile course at a 6:31 pace. this was not a course record for me, but given my recent history, this was relatively fast. My pace gradually slipped back to 6:50 per mile and I performed my second flush on October 18th. On October 25th, seven days later, I ran a 6:26 pace slipping back on each subsequent run to 6:42 before performing my third flush on October 31st. On November 4th I ran a 6:28 pace, on the 5th, I ran a course personal record at a 6:22 pace. Two days later on the 7th, I broke my personal record again by running the 5 miles at a 6:20 pace. Once again, in the subsequent days my pace slipped back to 6:45 per mile. I performed my 4th flush on November 14th and on the 18th I broke another personal record by running at a 6:16 pace. On the 20th, I ran at a 6:21 pace. I was so excited with this new energy level that I decided to shorten the two week cycle of flushes. I performed my next flush on November 21st and my pace has now slipped to the 6:30 - 6:45 level. I attribute this to breaking the 2 week flush cycle. My running pace was showing that my liver definitely achieved peak performance about 5-7 days after a flush as long as they were spaced two weeks apart.
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