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True disciples of the Lord Jesus by Mighty.Sun.Tzu ..... Christianity Debate

Date:   12/5/2012 12:55:57 PM ( 12 y ago)
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What you believe and expound to others in the name of God shall be judged by Him.

For this i am deeply thankful and i look forward to receiving the many rewards that will accompany preaching the truth of the Lord Jesus in spite of the many persecutions.  I am so excited for the rewards judgement, how about you? 


If you have been given the "Holy Spirit" other that what it was intended for, that only being in communication through prayer, then you will answer to God to how you became a 'chosen one'.

You err in wanting to to limit and quench the Holy Spirit, our comforter, counselor, teacher and friend.  I am one of the Lord's millions of true disciples on the planet today and you can become one too if you die to your flesh and are born again of His Holy Spirit.  We are to be led by the Holy Spirit of the Living God every second of every day.  Do you hate your flesh and do you want to be dead to it?  Do you not believe the Lord Jesus calls us to this?

If God has given you the power to judge others and caste them out as demon stricken then where does our Lord come into our lives when you have been appointed by Him to do His works.

God has given me no authority to cast people out and nor do i want it.  He has given me authority over demons and from what i have experienced, quite a bit of it.  I want people who wish for prayer to be blessed... by their demons being made to leave in Jesus name, and by helping them to get filled to overflowing with the living water of Jesus and every other holy blessing the Lord has for them... that's it.  Millions of true disciples of the Lord Jesus alive today have been given this same authority over demons and walk in it, knowing who they are in Christ.  Would you like to be given this authority by the Lord Jesus as well?  

For He has also given you the power to heal others through His name shall we now come to you to be healed.

If you wish healing, i think this would be a wise move on your part unless you know somebody else to whom the Lord has given this gift.  The bible says (paraphrased), "have all been given the gift of healing?".  To this rhetorical question, the answer is no.  I have been blessed with this gift and i won't apologize for it.  but i will offer in love to pray healing for anybody who wishes it and i don't offer that without first stating the fact that i have been given this gift, since it would be counter-productive and fewer people would be blessed with the Lord's healings.  All for the sake of false humility which would make satan very happy?  I don't think so.  I will stick with humbling myself before the Lord which includes doing His will, which includes praying healing and deliverance and holy blessings for whoever wants it, in the hopes of seeing them deeply blessed by the Lord.

 Are our prayers to God now null and void for we are sinners as you say meaning we now have to come to you for forgiveness.

Your prayers are not null and void, but please keep in mind that the prayers of a righteous man or woman availeth much.  If you are not living righteously and you want a prayer answered, you have a vastly better chance if you allow a righteous living person to pray for you.  Coming to me for forgiveness?   Please contend with me only against the words i have actually written.   We must all come only to the Lord Jesus for forgiveness of sin.  He is the one who was sent by His Father, lived a perfect sinless life, was beaten, hung on a cross and risen from the dead to save us from our sins, all of us who will call upon His holy name and receive Him as Savior and Lord and live holy unto Him, abiding in Him as branches attached to the Vine.  It was not me or Kat Kerr and not the millions of His other holy living disciples on the planet today who died for the sins of the world, it was none other than the Lord Jesus whom i love and serve with every beat of my heart. 

You say that we all can have the power of God if we repent ourselves to Him, to be born again, and in return be given the gift of Gods powers as you have done.

The power of God will pour through His surrendered vessels, yes and in many ways.  Did peter heal the lame man in his own power or was it the living God pouring through his surrendered life? 

Does one still have to go through Jesus to get to God or do we now have choices because you and others such as yourself have been allocated with the full power of the "Holy Spirit" so now God is now only used as an allocator and not our blessed Father anymore.

The Lord Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.  Nobody comes to the Father except through Him.  This truth will never change.  The Lord Jesus is the risen Lamb of God and there will never be another like Him.  I am not worthy to untile his sandals, though He would allow me to anyway because of His immense love for me. 

Tell me, has God said nothing about all this to you, whether the fight with Satan has now ended and He is the vanquished one.

If the fight with satan and the demonic realm has ended, why did the Lord Jesus say after His death and resurrection that in His name believers would cast out demons?  Do you believe all the demons are gone and are no longer oppressing people?  I state the following not as doctrine, but as my belief, one which the bible has no uncontested answer for and one for which there is a mountain of evidence from many true disciples of the Lord Jesus.  I believe that when a believer is truly born again, demons can no longer dwell in our Spirit which is where the Holy Spirit dwells, but they can dwell in our body as evidenced by pain and infirmity which leave when told to leave in Jesus name, our emotions, as evidenced by such things as depression, anger and addictions which leave when told to leave in Jesus name and our minds as evidenced by such things as confusion which leave when told to leave in Jesus name.  I have personally prayed the Lord's deliverance and healing for many people who have been set free from all of these things and many more... and most of them were christians.  The inch thick bible goes into very little detail about demons, demon possession, demon oppression and how it all works.  We must therefore rely on the Holy Spirit who is our teacher to teach us.  The Holy Spirit and our own real life experiences and those of the many other true disciples of the Lord Jesus who have a lot of actual experience with this, Derek Prince videos in youtube as one example.  

He did ask all of us to watch out for 'false prophets' but to no avail.

Who are the false prophets, the ones who do and teach and live as the Lord Jesus commanded, by the power of His Spirit, or the ones who deny much of what He said?  Why live a watered down institutionalized church false gospel when the Lord Jesus called us to live His gospel in fullness? 

Do you now realise that you 'may' have sold your soul to Satan? Could you possibly be now caste as the Devils Incarnate?  Lord have mercy on your soul if that is true Ed.

The pharisees told the Lord Jesus that he casts out beelzebub by beelzebub.  Is that what you are accusing me of?  This is what the Lord Jesus had to say about it in Matthew 12: 

22 Then one was brought to Him who was demon-possessed, blind and mute; and He healed him, so that the blind and[e] mute man both spoke and saw. 23 And all the multitudes were amazed and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”

24 Now when the Pharisees heard it they said, “This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub,

 

the ruler of the demons.” 25 But Jesus knew their thoughts, and said to them: “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. 26 If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?

 

The Lord Jesus also said, and this is really good stuff, right on target to address three recent threads:

Matthew 10:25
"It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household!

If the blind can't see that the Lord Jesus is of God, on the side of holiness against unholiness,  how will they see that His mere disciples are of God and the kingdom of God?  Could the pharisees have recognized Kat Kerr, me, and millions of other true disciples of the Lord Jesus, living surrendered unto Him as holy living saints if they couldn't even see it in the Lord Jesus who is the Son of God? 

I encourage you very strongly to carefully consider who you accuse of selling their soul to Satan and of being false prophets / false disciples of the Lord Jesus.  Please believe me when i say that my Father in heaven who loves me very intensely and is very pleased and delighted with me really wouldn't like it if you are publicly accusing me of this and i am certain that He would firmly discipline you in one way or another, His will not mine.   As two biblical examples of this among many others, what happened to Abigail's husband Nabal when he cursed David?  See 1 Samuel 25.  What happened to Haman when his persecutions of holy living Mordecai and to all of the jews in exile in Persia became a stench in the nostrils of the Living God?  (Book of Esther).   By the way, how powerfully used of God was that 3 day dry fast?

I have a fair amount of experience with people who would make themselves my enemy (including a corrupt police officer who serves satan) and i have seen the way my heavenly Father handles it without my even asking.  In an amazing miracle of God, the corrupt police officer ended up in court on charges filed against him by the deputy mayor himself.  I didn't have to do anything but ask the Lord to do His will in this situation and deliver me from my enemy... and then to partake in writing a letter as strongly led by the Holy Spirit.  The deputy mayor turned out to be the uncle of one of my poor inner city tenants whom i had previously prayed deliverance and holy blessings for in Jesus name, deliverance and holy blessings which she spectacularly received.  She may or may not have told her Jesus loving uncle about the prayer, but she did tell him that i had stood my ground against police harassment from the same officer (who really seems to love spreading his corruption around), him putting unreasonable pressure on me to evict her for defending herself in her own home with a registered shotgun against a gunman's attack.  I told her i would never evict her and that i would die first... and i meant it.   She passed this on to this man whom i had no idea was her uncle.  Earlier as strongly led, i along with my brother had written a 3 page letter to the city about the events and the carefully documented string of persecution and when the deputy mayor found out about the letter, the situation and the way i stood firmly in defense of his niece in holiness against unholiness,  he asked his niece for a copy.  This led to the officer being brought up on charges of harrassment and abuse of authority.  

I don't have anger and i don't have unforgiveness, but please don't call down curses from the Heavenly Father upon yourself and i say this in love for your own benefit.  Vektek if you are reading this, this is for your eyes too.  chette?  doc?  this is for you as well because i wish only the best for all of you from my heavenly Father.   as my very Lord Jesus spoke whom i serve every second of every day with all that i am and everything within me, Father please forgive them for they know not what they do.  Please don't hold these sins against them.  Please also forgive vektek for her offenses against your daughter Kat Kerr whom you also intensely love and are deeply delighted with through her immense love, dedication and surrender to you and through her Spirit led holy living unto you, something you call every disciple of the Lord Jesus into and something you bless without measure.    

Many blessings to all in the precious name of the Lord Jesus, the risen Lamb of God.



 

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