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Re: Vitamin D question - Newport/everybody by johng ..... Ask Trapper

Date:   10/24/2012 10:04:29 AM ( 12 y ago)
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in regards to your specific question about sunlight... i believe the passage below discusses the mechanism at work:

"People infected with L-form bacteria are particularly prone to the effects of 25-D on the Vitamin D Receptor. That is because their L-form bacteria have created proteins which have already bound and deactivated the Vitamin D Receptor to varying degrees. Extra amounts of the steroid 25-D only bind and shut down the receptor even more, further inhibiting the innate immune system, the transcription of thousands of genes, and the production of the AMPs.

“It is when L-form bacteria die that they begin to cause a major increase in symptoms for the host, since as they die they release a large amount of toxins and cytokines, proteins that generate pain and fatigue. ”The above scenario is all too familiar, since L-form bacteria are found everywhere in our environment, from soil, to water, to sperm, to inside the womb.[18] Consequently, it seems that few people will remain free of them for long and most will acquire substantial levels of them as they age.[19]

L-form bacteria have evolved mechanisms that allow them to live for long periods of time within the cells, and when alive, generally persist without generating too many symptoms.[20]

It is when L-form bacteria die that they begin to cause a major increase in symptoms for the host, since as they die they release a large amount of toxins and cytokines, proteins that generate pain and fatigue. Furthermore, as L-form bacteria die, the cell that they have parasitized dies as well, and cellular debris is released into the bloodstream. These substances cause the tissues to become inflamed, resulting in what is known as “Th1 inflammation.”[21]

As previously discussed, the innate immune system is responsible for killing L-form bacteria and is controlled by the Vitamin D Receptor (VDR). Elevated levels of the steroid 25-D and bacterial proteins bind and inactivate the VDR, causing the immune system to work less effectively.

As the immune system becomes increasingly inhibited, fewer L-form bacteria are killed. Furthermore, the Vitamin D Receptor is no longer able to transcribe the antimicrobial peptides, and fewer bacteria are killed by DNA fragmentation. As fewer bacteria die, fewer inflammatory cytokines are released, and fewer toxins and cellular debris enter the bloodstream. As the level of inflammation temporarily decreases, a patient will start to feel better.

This seeming wellness is illusory. Without the innate immune system and the antimicrobial peptides to keep L-form bacteria in check, the pathogens easily spread to new cells, new tissues, and new organs.

Many people who begin to supplement with vitamin D or spend extended periods of time in the sun only have a small or moderate amount of L-form bacteria in their bodies. Since these people’s immune systems are not yet severely compromised (their VDRs are not yet partially blocked by bacterial proteins), their bodies kill a fair share of the bacteria, resulting in minor aches and pains. But if 25-D rises to the level at which it inhibits their immune systems, less bacteria die, Th1 inflammation decreases, and their minor symptoms may be temporarily relieved.

Naturally, such patients feel that the extra vitamin D is helpful. It may take decades before their L-form bacterial load rises to the threshold at which they are diagnosed with an “autoimmune” illness, or have a stroke or heart attack. At this point later in life, they seldom make the connection between their current illness and the extra vitamin D they have been taking with no apparent ill effect for such a long period of time.

“If you think about it, it seems little wonder that vitamin D has become so popular. It’s basically an over-the-counter steroid.” It’s easy to see how people infected with even minor amounts of L-form bacteria tell their doctors that supplementation with vitamin D and increased exposure to the sun make them feel better. As Joyce Waterhouse, PhD, a researcher affiliated with Autoimmunity Research Foundation stated in a discussion of vitamin D in diseases caused by L-form bacteria, “If you think about it, it seems little wonder that vitamin D has become so popular. It’s basically an over-the-counter steroid.”[22] Even the Vitamin D Council, a California non-profit agency who promote the use of vitamin D, say on their website that “vitamin” D is a steroid. Yet this group fails to question the full implications of their own statement."

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