Date:   7/25/2012 10:44:54 PM ( 12 y ago)
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The post that you're responding to is about a brand new diagnostic tool for breast cancer.  You didn't respond to that part at all.  Don't you have any interest in this very significant medical advance?  

Hulda Clark, and others have “cured” many cancers that were totally undiagnosed and they (not Hulda - but others) continue to do so to this day.  I have seen several posts here on CZ where a person self diagnoses themselves with cancer and then treats and “cures” it.  You bet!  The brand new diagnostic tool cited at the top of this thread is suitable for the News and Cancer forums here on CZ and is 99% accurate!  If you wish to then treat it or non treat it, then that's up to the individual cancer patient.

As you've read in my posts many times before I'm a two lung, two time lung cancer surgery survivor (try and find any others who have survived cancer in both lungs) and there was no way that I was going to rely solely on alternative treatment for “therapy.”  I was given the facts by my clinic that using their surgery I had a 95% chance of surviving 5 years without any recurrence.  (That's their overall survival rate for the type of lung cancer that I had and if you don't believe them you can go argue with them.)  I'm at the 3 year mark on one side, only 6 months on the other but do have a 95% to 97% combined lung capacity which is about normal for no surgery and at my age of 80 and I consider it to be rather remarkable for what I've been through.  (I was a heavy smoker but quit a long time ago.)  I've also been given the information that the last CT scan of my lung/s at the 6 month mark of the last surgery shows complete remission and not one iota of return.

Prior to this last lung surgery I in fact went with both Essiac and Pau d'arco teas about four months prior to the surgery date and after about three weeks on the teas became significantly ill.  Then I quit both teas and the illness went away.  When one uses 'alternative' methods you have no idea in the world the harm that you may causing to yourself - just like your oleander “soup.”  With no follow up you have no idea whatsoever how many people your oleander suggestions have killed.  Like all in the alternative filed, those never report back.  It is the MDs who write the death certificate (as in Hulda Clark's case - who had blood cancer when she died) and if they don't know the specifics of what the person was using for their alternative treatment they don't know either.

“Overall, chemo treatments only increase survival by 2% over those who do not choose conventional treatment.”

Oh, I think you've used that fiction before and here is a site that pokes many holes in your/Luella's logic.

http://anaximperator.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/only-3-percent-survive-chemothe...

“The best alternative treatments are successful the large majority of the time, including for late stage cancers provided that one does not wait until there is no time at all for treatment. And, unlike conventional treatment, alternative treatments can not only eliminate the cancer but also address the root cause of the cancer and prevent its return.”

All you have to do is back up those statement with facts, turn it all in to the Nobel Committee and you and the other healers will be granted many many Nobel medals.  I have turned to and used alternative therapies for many more years than CZ has been in existence and have found that some work, some don't and feel that yes, there is a lot more to learn about what is being called alternative treatments.

The fact that you are in the business of selling alternative supplements and profiting from your postings and advertising here on CZ and other forums puts you in the very same category as the medical doctors who own large numbers of shares in pharmaceuticals.

By the way - I'm also a 20 year prostate cancer survivor who told the urology surgeon to go have sex with himself (using a little different wording) and cancelled my surgery date and still have my very functional prostate gland to this day.  For the first year after a clinical/laboratory diagnosis of cancer I ate raw garlic by the handfuls and still believe it is one of the best anti cancer alternatives available and beats your soup 16 ways.  Oleander may in fact eventually prove to be of benefit, but the years of testing for it to reach that goal hasn't yet happened.

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