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i dont cotton to any isms. dont study them, dont know them.

youre spouting the doctrines of man. check your bible. there is only one god. he made everything, the good and the evil. and its all for our benefit.

how is jesus lord? how is he one with the father? how is jesus the only begotten son of god? if you dont know how, how can you follow? if you blindly believe, so do demons. it doesnt change them. your path is supposed to be transforming. no one else can do it for you. no one else can understand it. we are all unique. whats right for you isnt right for me. you cant judge me and i cant judge you. what can we judge? we can judge ourselves using the word of god as our measuring stick. thats the rod youre not supposed to spare, not some excuse to beat your kid like dobson teaches. and we can judge fruit. the bible tells two ways you can detect your brethren. they have love one for another and they will listen when you speak.

the spirit is life. the flesh is death. thats the choice laid before us all. if you walk in the spirit then this world will hate you and call you foolish. every thought and imagination you have is evil. you have to kill that. slaughter it. find all inside you that does not have the mark of god and slay it with a butcher knife. isnt that what Ezekiel said?

how is jesus lord? he contains the spiritual genetic code of god. how is he one with the father? he is the word of god robed in flesh. how is he the only begotten son of god? because spirit can only beget spirit. what did jesus say about his words? they are spirit. they are truth. how was jesus in the beginning and part of the creation process? god spoke. jesus is the word which was from the beginning. how do we become the children of god?

Galatians 3:26
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

that verse is useless to one who doesnt know what it means. you have to understand what faith is. you have to understand who jesus christ is. and that is what the new testament explains. galations is milk for babes. babes who dont grow up die.

Ephesians 5

5 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.

7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

i will tell you a secret. god means everything he says. if you take on the blessings of the bible you also take on the curses as well. there are two creations in genesis. the first creation of man is given no command except to be fruitful and multiply. there is no talk of good and evil. there is no garden of god with the tree of life in it. man was created just as all the other animals two of their kind, male and female he created them. THEN he formed a man from the dust of the already created earth. this man god breathed the spirit of life into him. the first adam. and god said to the man do not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. but he disobeyed. he did not believe god. from then on mans troubles began. he did not get it right until the second adam, one formed in a virgin. and this second adam obeyed.

Colossians 3:5-7

5 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:

6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.

i am going to fast forward a bit, from babes to maturity.

1 John 3

3 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.

14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

17 But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

18 My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.

19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.

20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

to quote david byrne: "this aint no party. this aint no disco. this aint no foolin around."

people make grave error to think that they can lay claim to promises that they cant keep themselves. god didnt raise up jesus. his own words, "no man takes my life but i lay it down and i can take it back up again." any jesus believers here? he also said we will do greater things than he did on earth. anyone seeing that? doing that? anyone you know?

and here is the error that people have not believed god. we are created in his image. we are creators. as we think, so shall it be. that first creation? they lived and died and became just like the animals. there is no burning forever in torment for them. god is not sadistic. they enjoy the gifts of god on this earth and that is their portion. there are some that are so today. but the gifts and callings of god are without repentance. there are many who have asked for eternal life and have received it. but they ignore the fact that god is just and will not be mocked. what a man sows is what he will reap. and in this we find those outside the city, wailing and gnashing teeth. they have eternal life, but they are on their own, separated from god. jude describes these folk.

JUDE
1...to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called

this is certainly a letter to the ones who have walked the path and kept their robes clean. and what does jude say?

4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

these are ones who call themselves christians. they obviously wont be chosen to enter into the city.

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.

all of the things you see people do and we have all participated in at one time ourselves, but humbling and repenting needs to take place. how can they confess if they hide their errors as if god (or anyone in christ) cant see them? they dont read the word and get convicted. they read the word and point fingers at others. they take hold of all the promises and cast the curses upon others.

17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;

18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.

20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:

23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

faultless? is anyone trying to be faultless? does anyone have even a little faith? we are about to find out.
 

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