Apples and oranges by Dquixote1217 ..... Cancer Forum
Date: 6/28/2012 4:02:41 PM ( 13 y ago)
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You are talking apples and oranges here and yes, your posts do contain quite a bit of wrong information - especially as applies to properly made oleander extract. Properly prepared oleander extract, which has over 500 different compounds, is far from a chemo drug. It is a natural herbal supplement whose compounds work synergistically, as nature does and as our natural bodies do. Whether maim-stream medicine ever produces an oleander-based drug remains to be seen. The woman who died from "oleander tea" was not using properly prepared oleander extract. The other instances you post about are talking about raw oleander and not properly prepared oleander extract.
Here's a great example of your wrong information: Contrary to what you posted, heart disease is NOT a side effect of oleander. And I would love to see the post you say you have seen where a woman was cured of cancer but died of heart disease. I can assure you that if such were the case, it is extremely unlikely that properly prepared oleander extract had anything to do with her death. As a matter of fact, an oleander extract made in Russia is specifically designed to treat heart disease (as well as vertigo). It was that extract which the bogus company I helped expose to the FDA and other authorities tried to relabel and market as Xenavex. The company was a total scam and they never intended to have trials, they just used that false information to bilk investors.
The "two death reports to the FDA" comes from the maim-stream American Cancer Society site. Other than a couple of articles which quote that site you cannot find any evidence of such reports - and certainly not at the FDA site. Do a search for "FDA Anvirzel death reports" and you will see what I mean. According to the company which makes Anvirzel, the suspicion is that the information was falsely planted.
Also contrary to what you have reported, there have indeed been numerous studies including FDA trials which HAVE indicated that oleander is effective against cancer and there was also a double-blind placebo controlled trial where an herbal extract based on oleander was 100% successful in reversing HIV/AIDS symptoms. The most recent human trial was conducted on a new oleander extract. Though it too was a Phase I toxicity trial, it nevertheless did have a number of positive tumor responses during the brief trial.
See:
Case Reports and Studies on Oleander
Oleander Extract for Cancer Successfully Passes Phase I FDA Trial
Now, I will point out that this is not a debate forum but is instead a support forum for Cancer Alternatives. The forum, as is this overall website, is intended for people who are seeking alternatives to mainstream drugs and treatments. If you want to debate oleander, essaic, pau de arco or any other alternative to mainstream treatments then take the debate to the Cancer Debate forum. as the Webmaster has clearly instructed at the top of this forum:
Skeptical about Alternative Cancer Therapies? Have skeptical questions? Go to Cancer Debate Forum.
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