Re: More wrong information at Cancer Forum

"I do not know what, if any, role either Essiac Tea or Pau de Arco might have played with your atrial flutter - but I can tell you that herbal hawthorn berry syrup is wonderful for eliminating atrial fibrillation/irregular heartbeat."

I've cured my afib with spiritual healing, no oral required. One of the significant medical problems in our society is that we have been programmed to orally ingest a "cure" for everything and that is far from true. You and everyone else on the Planet is going to die, or more correctly - get rid of your body. It will not last and in fact will stop functioning no matter what you do. However, you as spirit will continue on and in fact will use this life's lesson as a building block for the next time you come back to Earth to take a body and learn through. The birthing process is much more difficult than the dying process - but again, death will take you and everyone else.

Regarding Essiac tea just do a CZ search on Canadian Yoda who cured herself of stage IV cancer with Essiac and Pau d'arco and her medical doctor verified the before and after results. A rarity in cancer cures.

I've even seen a post where a woman took oleander soup and was cured (really) of cancer, but died from heart disease which is a huge oleander side effect.

There is NO wrong information in the post you are responding to. If they do ever extract a safe element from oleander (and that's a good possibility), it will be nothing more than another chemotherapy drug - and chemotherapy is exactly what you are promoting with this "solution."

Oleander is generally considered unsafe for internal use. Extracts from oleander have been used as rat poison, insecticide and fish poison and are toxic to humans. Accidental deaths and suicides have occurred after taking oleander by mouth. The cause of death is probably related to oleander's effects on the heart. Possible benefits must be weighed carefully with the risk of toxicity.

.......The oleander plant is poisonous, and many people have died of heart failure or respiratory paralysis after eating parts of the plant or drinking tea made from it. Some of the symptoms and signs of oleander toxicity are nausea, vomiting, colic, appetite loss, dizziness, drowsiness, high potassium levels, dilated pupils, bloody diarrhea, seizures, loss of consciousness, slow or irregular pulse, and heart block -- a blockage of the electrical impulses that stimulate the heart to contract. There have been reports of death occurring after oral and/or rectal administration of the extract from the plant. The FDA has received reports of at least 2 deaths linked to Anvirzel.

Skin irritation from contact with oleander has occurred and allergies are possible. One report observed that, when oleander was taken by a pregnant woman 12 hours before delivery, her baby was affected with seizures and a slowed heart rate. No other cause for the seizures and low heart rate was found. This herb should be avoided, especially by children and by women who are pregnant or breast-feeding. Relying on this type of treatment alone and avoiding or delaying conventional medical care for cancer may have serious health consequences.

Oleander tea: herbal draught of death.

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A woman died after drinking herbal tea prepared from oleander (Nerium oleander) leaves. This case demonstrates the cross-reactivity between the cardiac glycosides in oleander and the digoxin radioimmunoassay. Digoxin-specific Fab antibody fragments have not been used in oleander poisoning, but these might prove to be lifesaving. Treatment of oleander toxicity is aimed at controlling arrhythmias and hyperkalemia; inactivation of the Na-K ATPase pump, however, can make treatment difficult.

What is the evidence?

The effectiveness of oleander has not been proven. In test tube studies, oleandrin, one of the substances found in oleander extracts, caused apoptosis (a specific type of cell death) of prostate cancer cells. In other test tube studies, Anvirzel appeared to slow the growth of human bladder cancer cells, but human studies are needed to determine whether it will work in people. Very early studies of carefully dosed Anvirzel in people with cancer have not yet shown that it helps. Side effects included nausea and vomiting, aches, and redness at the injection site, but the drug did not appear to affect the cancer in these patients. One very early study of 18 patients with advanced cancer was done primarily to determine the best dose of the drug. No measurable responses were noted in patients’ cancer during this small study. Although there are claims that Anvirzel improves quality of life, reduces pain, increases energy, and causes cancer regression and remission, available scientific evidence does not support these claims.

Another company had planned to offer an oleander extract that could be placed under the tongue, which they named Xenavex. Phase I and Phase II clinical trials on Xenavex were announced in 2005 on people with non–small-cell lung cancer. However, the clinical trials were not done, and the announcements were later removed from the federal clinical trials Web site. The company did not return calls or e-mails about the product.

Before any form of oleander can be recommended for human use, it must be thoroughly tested in people using the carefully controlled dosing and observation procedures used in clinical trials.

The oleander plant is poisonous, and many people have died of heart failure or respiratory paralysis after eating parts of the plant or drinking tea made from it. Some of the symptoms and signs of oleander toxicity are nausea, vomiting, colic, appetite loss, dizziness, drowsiness, high potassium levels, dilated pupils, bloody diarrhea, seizures, loss of consciousness, slow or irregular pulse, and heart block -- a blockage of the electrical impulses that stimulate the heart to contract. There have been reports of death occurring after oral and/or rectal administration of the extract from the plant. The FDA has received reports of at least 2 deaths linked to Anvirzel.

Ventura County prosecutors said Friday that they will seek the death penalty in the murder trial of David Wayne Sconce, accused of using oleander to poison a business rival in 1985.

Oleander tea: herbal draught of death.

Abstract

What is the evidence?

Death Penalty Sought in Oleander Poisoning Case