Re: From DR. SCHULZE, I am Shocked! by #135092 ..... Dr. Schulze Support Forum
Date: 4/7/2012 9:06:53 AM ( 12 y ago)
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I am also shocked, and I'd like to take a few minutes to explain.
But before I do, I'd like to mention I'm not quite sure who posted the original post. That's because the real Dr. Schulze has always posted using the User ID, Dr. Schulze (here's that posting history: //www.curezone.org/forums/s.asp?f=762&c=0&ob=d&m=DR.+SCHULZE),
the one he used when contacting me. So we have no way of knowing who DocSCHULZE actually is - it could be the real Dr. Schulze ; it could be someone Dr. Schulze asked to make the post for him; someone he shared our phone conversation with; or it could be a total imposter with ESP. Since I'm remembering most of the references to our phone call quite clearly, it's unlikely it's an imposter. But no matter who the actual poster is, my response below (which has taken me several days to compose) is as honest & forthright as I can make it.
>>>She was surprised that I called her and at that time she confessed up front that she was a competitor of mine, and had started making her own herbal business making some copies of my formula.<<<
I was surprised (honored, humbled, and thrilled) that Dr. Schulze posted & called me. And I did share with him forthrightly that my husband and myself make & sell various herbal formulas that he had originated (as well as those of Dr. Christopher). However, I did not exactly "confess up front that I was a competitor"...because there's no possible way we can EVER "compete" with Dr. Schulze! He has a multi-million dollar operation and the ability to source the purest, most incredible herbs grown on the planet. We live 'a smidge above poverty level' in a 900 square foot house (where the inventory has totally replaced our living room, half our kitchen and most of my office/workspace). Since there's only my husband doing the tincturing, mixing, packaging & shipping...our volume for a month is probably less than Dr. Schulze's is in a few hours (if that much).
playing possum? (not my first rodeo either)
>>>But recently I was shocked to see her promoting her own business by making numerous negative accusations and negative comments about me, written all over the place on Curezone, Negative comments of me and my formula. I have to say I expected more respect from her.<<<
I'm very similar to Dr. Schulze in some integral ways. I believe in the freedom to speak freely; I'm passionate; I'm no pushover (this is not my first rodeo either :) -- and if my knowledge, understanding, and inner voice agree that there's something that needs to be said, I say it...knowing I can always apologize afterward if I'm wrong (I learned that last part from Dr. Schulze :). The one thing I am absolutely sure of is that I have never made any type of criticism, accusation or negative comment about any person or any product for the purpose of promoting our business. Because our business is anything but a "business" to us...it's a calling to which we've devoted our life. That calling is to educate & empower the world one person at a time (via an "internet support clinic") by exposing the horrors of modern medicine and teaching the truths of natural health & healing. And most recently, our calling has expanded into creating & offering effective herbal formulas of the highest caliber herbs available to us (that can be sourced by average folks), to those that couldn't afford them otherwise, can't get them anywhere else, or choose not to make them. We also share the 'recipes' and our sources, and teach people to make their own tinctures & herbal blends
We believe (both spiritually & ethically) that criticizing, accusing, or "judging" (especially for the intent of gaining profit) would be extremely detrimental to the integrity & success of our calling.
When I started posting on CZ (8 years ago this July), it didn't take long for people reading my posts to see that I'm a "calls 'em as I see's 'em" kinda gal. I've made around 6500 posts in that time; a quick Google search shows around 2400 of them had the word "Schulze" in them. And out of those 2400 posts, you can be sure that a mere 1%-2% of them contain anything critical of a healer whose protocols & wisdom I constantly teach, preach & promote, and to which I frequently refer to as "one of the greatest healers that ever lived". I have never questioned the quality of the herbs he uses in his products. I knew it before I spoke with him, but after speaking with him I was totally blown away at the knowledge, time, and expense he invests to find the highest caliber herbs in the world.
while you clearly are well=intentioned and knowledgeable unyquity, i have to call you out here.
first, your posts are so ridiculously long and really it just comes off sounding like you are full of yourself. you seem like you thrive on the drama. simple little phrases in quotes and all the cutesy wootsey speak is just too much to bear. who cares that you have posted for 8 years? who cares about how big your house is? does your low income somehow give you alt med street cred?
As one poster on CZ said "...and always an Uniquity preaching the gospel of Schulz and Christopher..."
nothing wrong with preaching schulze and christopher. they had a of of good things to say. the wrong part is preaching exclusively, and apparently without blessing. she seems to leverage credibility from parroting schulze, this where i take issue.
i think a little smackdown from the man was in order. someone has become a little big for her britches.
Was I ever in any of Dr. Schulzes clinics? No. The only information any of us have is the limited amount of information these healers had the time & energy to write & publish...after spending God-only-knows how much time in their clinics saving people's lives (and fighting or running from the Powers That Be). And we also have the info that they've published after their clinics were closed.
In that 1%-2%, have I identified changes made in Dr. Schulzes formulas and identified a few discrepancies in the information I have read? Yes. And then posted my thoughts as to what they may indicate? Yes. Have I been 'passionate' and/or exhibited strong emotion in some of those posts? Yes. Do I believe those are actually stellar qualities compared to dull apathy, never questioning, and blindly following others? Absolutely. Examining, questioning, critiquing & challenging everything we read (no matter who writes it, myself included), is a fundamental survival skill that I pray everyone 'awakens from it's slumber' inside themselves and learns to utilize daily. I doubt Dr. Schulze would be 'who he is' if he hadn't used those very same qualities when he was learning & discerning the best way to heal others. And I'd guess he made a few mistakes along the way when using those qualities, and maybe even pissed off some of his teachers & mentors.
on the one hand you say that little old you cannot compare to the great schulzy, and on the other hand you are entitled to live by the same rule of law. the guy is an m.d. and had a clinic treating thousands and thousands of people. you aren't in the same league, and you aren't him. i think it all sort of boils down to your ego and windy self-aggrandizing posts (that are often couched in self effacement to try to mask the drama queen overtones)
Have I made mistakes? That's a lot of posts and I'm human, so I likely have. I know my intent was to inform people of the changes and/or discrepancies I'd identified so they could be aware of them and add that information to their 'database' for discernment. I know I've exhibited 'negative emotion' in some of those. Naaah, let's scratch that...I've exhibited anger. That's because I am mad...furious sometimes even. I'm mad because these healers can't clone themselves and write/publish everything they learned & did every hour of every day they were in their clinics. I'm mad because the PTB (Powers That Be) have embedded their lies & fear so deeply that people are actually afraid to take the herbs & do the cleanses they need to heal themselves. I'm furious every time I get a call, email or PM from someone literally begging for my help because their brain is so poisoned by psych-drugs that they really can't safely understand what they need to do. I'm mad there isn't a "Dr. Schulze Clinic" in place of every hospital in America! And I'm especially mad that if any of us tried to open a clinic in this political climate (before first winning a major lottery, hiring a full team of crack lawyers & a small militia to protect us), we'd all be handcuffed, caged & water-boarded for the 'anti-government terrorist crime' of healing people...to waste away until we died from the yearly vaccines genetically modified frankenfood, 'pink slime' meat, fluoridated water and jello! I call that righteous rage - and sometimes it's the only thing that gives me the cojones & courage I need to be 'in your face' to the Powers That Be every day. And if anybody reading this is not mad about those things, then that's just more proof that 'fluoride works' :(
geeze. 1000 words to say you've made mistakes? it is EXHAUSTING reading through your posting sometimes. ever hear of KISS? keep it simple stupid. aside from your current crop of 4-6 people who you give special attention to in your forum, people really aren't interested in all the flourishes.
i noticed in your forum that only a very few people actually get proper attention - most of them female or effeminate acting males.
And yeah, sometimes when I've been in that state of mind, I'm stumbled across an inconsistency, or gotten an email ("omg, did you see THIS?"), put my fingers on the keyboard and let 'er rip....and my anger spilled over into those posts. Guilty.
If Dr. Schulze would like to contact the Webmaster and have any/all of my posts deleted from his forum, he certainly has that option.
>>> Unfortunately a few bad apples on cure zone are there to sell product only and have lost their focus that we all should have,
to help people heal themselves naturally.<<<
I (and my husband) are not one of those bad apples! I spend 70-90+ hours a week (not all on CZ) helping people learn to heal themselves naturally - and my extremely intelligent husband (once a world renowned lapidary artist, as well as a gifted musician, jewelry artist, avid historian and all-round awesome man), now spends 70-90+ hours a week mixing/making herbal blends, filling bottles & baggies, packing boxes and hauling them to the post office. We have certainly not lost our focus. And in the natural healing realm, we most certainly are not "the enemy"!
For sure and for certain, each individual member of 'The Natural Healing Army' (from the generals to the privates) are never going to see eye-to-eye or agree 100% on everything (so there's always going to be accusations, anger, disappointment, errors, and squabbling in the ranks). It was never (ever!) my intent to cause conflict within the ranks; my only intent was to identify what I deemed to be discrepancies that were 'worthy of note', so that others could use that information for their discernment on their healing pathways. If my emotions 'got the best of me' and I've caused harm to anyone, (including Dr. Schulze), you all have my sincerest of apologies.
your husband sounds like a great guy, but what does that have to do with schulze's credentials or opinions? nothing.
you have a lot to learn. i think humility would be a good one to start with.
Blessings,
Unyquity
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