Date:   11/13/2011 8:20:45 PM ( 13 y ago)
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I'm hoping someone here can figure me out. I'm desperate right now. I've dealt with health problems in the past, and so far I was making progress and feeling good this year until a few months ago. Then, all hell broke loose.

One of my big problems has been constipation. I've done numerous Bowel Cleanses and supplements etc. but it still took regular intake of something like high-dose magnesium or vitamin C to keep me going. After doing some research and talking to others, it seemed that perhaps low bile flow might have been an issue. I did NOT have classical symptoms of this and my stools were normal color, but I wanted to see what might help.

Based on others success I tried taking bile acids (Jarrow bile acid factors) with large meals. Prior to doing this I researched bile acids and was assured that the only side-effect would be diarrhea if I took too many. Ha.

After about 3 days of taking the bile acids I had still not had a bowel movement. That night I went to sleep and awoke a few hours later with a full blown gallbladder attack. I was on the ground in pain, nauseous and in total agony. I eventually took some vitamin c to flush out my bowels and the attack stopped. (my original post here: //www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1833640)


I immediately stopped the bile acids and started a Dr. Schulze 5-day liver and gallbladder cleanse. I also took chanca piedra in case a gallstone was the problem. I experienced no more attacks and only some mild twinges of pain for the next 2-3 weeks. I thought I was in the clear.

Then, by mistake, I took ONE single bile acid capsule. I realized my mistake quickly but I figured one single pill won't hurt me. Well, about 2 hours after taking the pill I was struck by the most incredible nausea I've ever experienced. I was on the ground with chills and shaking because the nausea was so bad. This scenario would repeat itself 3 or 4 times per day for the next 10 days or so when the nausea dissipated by itself.

At that point, I did another 5-day Dr. Schulze liver cleanse and was feeling generally OK but still had some mild twinges of pain.

Then I started to develop nausea again whenever I ate just about anything. Fat/heavy foods were worse but even fruit could cause it at times.

I did my first "big" Liver Flush at that point and I think it made my symptoms worse...a lot more nausea after that day.

Maybe two weeks after that I did another Liver Flush without any change in symptoms. Around this time I was still able to eat if I was careful and nausea was only occasional.

Nausea increased some more and I did a third "big" flush.

About 2 days after this flush I ate beef (not usual for me) and went for a walk. I started getting horrific stabbing pains in my back while walking. These passed but then, later that night I was hit by nausea again...and it never left.

The nausea that hit me that night has stayed with me almost constantly for the last 2 months or so. It has been hell. I have lost a ton of weight as I cannot eat nearly anything. Nothing really helps. Further flushing has done nothing at all for me. I also have the very classical fullness under my right rib and pain beneath my right shoulder blade. Strangely, I also get some pain below my right rib cage in my back near the kidney area. This is also the area that first hurt when I had my first attack.

Doctors tests show a normal x-ray. Ultrasound found a small (2mm) polyp in my gallbladder. It seems unlikely this is the problem. No stones or bile duct enlargement was seen. Liver enzymes were normal but my ALT was nearly over range which I think shows liver involvement.

Doctors are clueless.

I've been taking all sorts of supplements but none really help all that much. I've tried TMG (betaine), lecithin, choline, dandelion root, turmeric, curcumin, artichoke, milk thistle, chanca piedra, magnesium, kyolic...and more I'm not remembering right now.

In addition, I've developed this odd anxiety that comes out of nowhere and seems to just floor me when it hits (it can stay for hours) and leaves me paralyzed to the point of tears at times. I'm wondering if this is from a sick liver...the toxins are making me anxious. I've never had this issue before.

I don't know what to do...

The doctors want to run a HIDA scan, but it seems a little pointless to me. A low result will mean they'll want to take my gallbladder and a normal result puts me right back where I am. Plus, in reading studies, a poor HIDA result is not a good indicator of good results from removal.

How the hell did bile acids do this to me?

Anyone who has some further advice here would be really appreciated...I'm desperate.
 

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