Date:   11/2/2011 9:24:59 PM ( 13 y ago)
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 HV, I follow your postings and have great respect for your knowledge especially relative to my own.

My liver has difficulty keeping up with toxins and recently showed enzymes slightly outside safe range in a recent test. In response I did my first coffee enema in hopes that it may have positive effect on liver. If anything it was a nice clean out.

Caffeine does have a stimulatory effect on the liver, but you can get the same effect by drinking it plus the benefits of it being a bitter.  But you will still have the adverse effects including the binding of nutrients from the tannins and oxalates and the adverse effects on the adrenals and nervous system.

On the other hand I have been reluctant to do liver flushes in fear of side effects from the fruit juices and or strange herbs.

What people generally refer to as "liver flushes" are the olive oil, citrus juice and magnesium sulfate, which does not cleanse the the liver at all:

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1679049#i

Bitters are the most effective means of cleansing the liver.  Any bitter tasting herb will work, and you only need a tiny amount to work.  Bitters do not work like most herbs where higher levels are generally required.  Instead bitters work by stimulating the bitter receptors on the tongue, which in turn stimulates the vagus nerve.  This "flushes" the liver among other benefits.  You should drink plenty of water throughout the day when using bitters.

Do you think that coffee enemas may have a positive effect on the liver? If so then how detrimental is the caffeine to the immune system, enough to not get involved at all?

Caffeine can stimulate the liver, but this does not make it safe.  How much effect it will have will depend on the person.  In a person already on the edge of adrenal dysfunction this could be quite detrimental.  Therefore, it is best to avoid these altogether, especially when there are safer and more effective alternative out there such as the bitters.

By the way, just to show an example of how contradictory some claims can be note how those who claim coffee enemas are good also claim that acidity increases Candida overgrowth.  Yet coffee is acidic from the tannic acid, oxalic acid, chlorogenic acid, etc.  Again this is why it is so important for people to verify claims from credible sites rather than to follow them blindly just because some stranger on a health forum recommends something.

So what's a guy to do to help out the old liver?

I made a list of herbs earlier  that are excellent for the liver such as licorice root, bupleurum, milk thistle seed and schisandra berry.  Artichoke leaf is another one I forgot to mention and it also functions as a bitter.

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