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Re: Coconut aminos/vinegar, die-off?, phenols, and my pathogens by Hveragerthi ..... The Truth in Medicine

Date:   10/25/2011 4:00:39 AM ( 13 y ago)
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 I think it was the probiotic I was using. I switched to ReNew Life Ultimate Flora Critical Colon 80 billion CFU, 14 strains (took one in AM and one in PM).

I did not take one this AM, and so far, I am not experiencing the massive gas, cramps, brain fog, sore joints, etc that I had when I usually take it in the AM. I instead took my usual Klaire lab's 12 strain 25 billion CFU (after breakfast and lunch). So far, no issues.

Should I completely STOP the ReNew Life...or just take it in the evening?

I recommend still taking it. Some probiotics is better than no probiotics.

It did seem to help my acne alot... the Klaire Labs probiotic made my acne worse, but I did not experience ANY GI complaints with the Klaire Labs product.

Muscle testing showed that the ReNew Life product tested fine for me...it was confirmed via frequency testing too (it tested better than the Klaire Lab).

Is it possible that I was just taking too much of the ReNew Life (I was taking a total of 160 billion CFUs...I'm a very tiny person, so maybe it was too much for my size and/or causing too extreme of a die-off)?

Again CFU levels are frequently exaggerated.  And it is not likely die off since there is only small amounts of bacteria in supplements like that , and many of the bacteria will not survive to reach the intestines.  So it is more likely a sensitivity to something combined with the probiotic.

I'm thinking perhaps to take 2 Klaire Labs in the AM (total of 50 billion CFUs, 12 strains) and 1 ReNew Life in the PM (80 billion CFUs, 14 strains).

The ReNew Life IS grown on dairy/soy....the Klaire Labs is NOT. Could that be a reason for my symptoms?

Yes.  Again it is more likely something in the probiotics other than the bacteria.

I called the company and they said that they haven't had any complaints about people reacting to the dairy/soy medium upon which the bacteria are grown, for these elements are usually consumed by the bacteria...but perhaps it's enough to cause ME sensitivities?

Both are common allergens.

Any advice or thoughts?

Keep up with the probiotics you can tolerate.  If you cannot tolerate soy or dairy I recommend looking in to water kefir as well.


 

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