Date:   10/4/2011 12:26:41 PM ( 13 y ago)
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Hello #145122,

A lot of the confusion comes from Jim Humbles insistence that Miracle-Mineral-Supplement forms chlorine dioxide.

A lot of tests have been done on chlorine dioxide, and as Dr. Hesselink points out, it is very unstable and reacts with a lot of different things. Many of these tests were done reviewing water treatment.

In water treatment you filter the water to get as much out as you can, then you disinfect it. The disinfection by product of chlorine dioxide is chlorite, and that is regulated. The goal is to use only as much chlorine dioxide as is needed to disinfect the water and that way the amount of chlorite is kept below the regulated amount.

Chlorine dioxide is a gas that can be dissolved in liquids. However, it doesn't change the PH of the liquid.

MMS involves adding an acid to sodium chlorite. This forms chlorous acid and is called acidified sodium chlorite. Chlorous acid has a small amount of chlorine dioxide in it. Chlorous acid is used in food processing, and the small amount of chlorine dioxide produced during activation is considered a waste product. The chlorous acid is doing the killing of the pathogens and not the chlorine dioxide. Chlorous acid has a higher oxidation reduction potential than chlorine dioxide, and can cause chemical burns and irritation.

Unfortunately, there are no studies involving people ingesting chlorous acid, so it is not known if a large dose is better than several small doses.

Chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide are oxidizers. Oxidizers work by having a concentration of them in contact with what you are trying to kill for a period of time long enough to achieve the kill.

Oxidizers work very well when the above conditions are met.

For example. If you have a cut on your arm that has become infected, it is very easy to spray the area with an oxidizer and leave it sit for a period long enough to kill off the infection. If the infection is in your mouth, the problem gets a little more difficult. The natural biofilm in your mouth will offer protection to the infection. Now you need to either increase the strength of the oxidizer or increase the amount of time the oxidizer is in contact with the infection. Sometimes you need to do both.

The further down the GI tract you go, the more difficult it is to get the oxidizer into contact with the pathogens.

Chlorine dioxide and chlorous acid work very well on hard surfaces. Chlorous acid works very well on meat carcasses, but too high a concentration breaks down the protein in the meat.

Inside the body there is a lot going on. Chlorous acid can eliminate flora, but that upsets the balance of the body. Too high a concentration will kill off blood cells. That may be helpful in the case of malaria, but is not something that will benefit the average person.

Everything that goes into the body becomes diluted with body fluids. John's method of using capsules avoids the dilution of the mouth, but the chlorous acid is suddenly released in the stomach. If your stomach has a good mucous lining it can possibly take this in stride, but if the mucous lining is a little weak the extra acid can burn through to the stomach wall causing problems. If you need more acid in your stomach it is far more effective to take a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar a few times during the day.

The main issue with oxidants is oxidative stress. With chlorite oxidative stress shows up as abnormalities in blood work, liver changes, kidney changes, and neural changes. Since these changes are beyond the abilities of most of us to determine, working with a medical professional can be beneficial in this monitoring process.

The body runs on oxidation, and has processes in place to limit the oxidative stress. For example hypochlorous acid (chlorine) is formed in the white blood cells after they have engulfed a pathogen and removed it from the blood stream. This is a lot different than flooding your body with hypochlorous acid, which would throw the body in to oxidative stress.

It appears that initially the body responds to stress by increasing the immune system response, but as the stress continues, the immune system tends to shut down. This may indicate that supplemental oxidizers may work better if used for a short term followed by a rest period to allow the body to recover.

The goal is to eliminate the pathogen at the source. To do this with these chemicals you need to identify what the pathogen is, and what the best method of delivery is to deliver the oxidant to the pathogen. Then you can determine the concentration needed to kill that particular pathogen. Finally you need to determine if the body can handle the concentration needed without doing further damage to the body. If not, find a different chemical to use.

Tom


 

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